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[–] [email protected] 93 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (17 children)

I miss the days when my much slower internet connection let me download entire videos faster than streaming to watch them with less buffering and fewer glitches. Now that I have a rock solid gigabit fiber connection with single digit latency, how is watching video such a bad experience?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

If you watched it in 320p like the old days then it might be faster?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The grey is faster than the red, then I ask to myself, what a wonderful world.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But I was told that the red ones go faster.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Like workday hours v weekend hours.

[–] [email protected] 141 points 8 months ago (4 children)

In case of YouTube you can actually dump the link into VLC, and it will happily buffer the whole video while paused. This probably works with other sites, but I have only tested YouTube.

Alternatively you can of course just download the video with yt-dlp, and then play it locally

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Modern ABRs are actually quite sophisticated, and in most cases you're unlikely to notice the forward buffer limit. Unstable connection scenarios are going to be the exception where it breaks down.

For best user experience it's of course good practice to offer media offlining alongside on demand, but some platforms consider it a money-making opportunity to gate this behind a subscription fee.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My internet is intermittently like 100mbps and 256kbps. It sees the 100mbps and acts like it's going to be that way forever, so doesn't buffer the whole video while it has the fast speed, then drops entirely when it slows down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

An ABR is generally going to make an estimate based on observed bandwidth and select an appropriate bitrate for that. It's not out of the question that you run out of forward buffer when your bandwidth takes a nosedive, because the high bitrate video is heavy as all hell and the ABR needs to have observed the drop in bandwidth before it reconsiders and selects a lower bitrate track.

I'm not familiar with ABRs affecting the size of the forward buffer, most commonly these are tweaked based on the type of use-case and scaled in seconds of media.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Realmedia has entered the chat

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago

I remember when we were still on dial-up and I found a youtube video I wanted to show my brother, I'd let it buffer and load and have to keep the pc on the entire day until he got home from work.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Letting the entire video buffer is the same as downloading the entire video which you can still do. My favourite tool is yt-dlp

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (5 children)

You can also setup a script to automatically download a channels latest vid so you don’t need to check the website anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago

It's a pretty great tool. Downloaded the entirety of Murder Drones on Saturday to add to my Plex server. Strictly for preservation, going to re-watch on YouTube to support them

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[–] [email protected] 227 points 8 months ago (8 children)

It probably saves insane amounts of bandwidth. But at what cost :(

[–] [email protected] 93 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The cost of shareholder profits.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

wait isnt it the other way around, buffering was costing profits for shareholders so they limited it?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure they have a legitimate numerical value for it

[–] [email protected] 94 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I dunno, I've been in a few meetings where people with deep pockets make critical infrastructure decisions based on extremely limited information. Trusting "them" to have a valid metric is a rookie mistake.

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