They make good EVs but I want my next EV to be LFP
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I love my Ioniq 5, I was expecting Hyundai to gain momentum on EVs in the US.
Coworker of one has one and impressed the hell out of me. That top view camera thing is awesome
The annoying thing is someone else owns the patent to that,so all the OEMs gotta pay to have it or choose not to offer it.
It ends sometime in the next 5-10 years I think.
In the US perhaps. In other countries people either choose Tesla for its charging network & software or Chinese EVs for LFP batteries & value. Korean cars can't find a niche.
Does charging network matter in Europe or China where everyone has to use the same government-mandated plug?
It might not matter in terms of accessibility, but the charging experience would still be better in a Tesla.
A navigation system that routes you through the chargers and pre warms the battery for optimal charging and then provides a plug and play experience without any apps or messing around with credit cards.
Edit: and I think it takes charger capacity into account and can reroute you to a less busy charger if there are multiple in the area
Edit: teslas also get preferential rate unless you sign up for a monthly plan with Tesla.
in Vietnam, people choose Vinfast (despite being not good) because its cheap and they own the lionshare of the charging network
If they could do a proper EV Soul they'd make a customer of me every 10 or so years for the rest of my life....maybe more often if it keeps getting stolen based on their track record.
The Ioniq 5 is a proper EV. It's even beats Tesla in some respects (stuff like vehicle to load is supported, something Tesla doesn't do).
I test drove one when I ended up getting my kia soul instead. It was super nice and really futuristic and cool. It was just way too expensive for me at the time. And probably still is honestly.
Also, in comparison to a Soul, i want a barebones base-model. Quit trying to sell me luxury technology at an inflated price.
Why the fuck does the base model have Wi-Fi hotspot, touch screen navigation, Android auto, Apple carplay, auto-braking collision avoidance, smart cruise, lane assist, heated seats, bluetooth link, parking sensors, heated mirrors, dual temp control, Sirius XM, and more.
it's over $40k USD and none of that shit is necessary.
I want a casket with a battery, a couple motors, and a steering wheel for cheap.
THAT's how you get electric adoption.
Yeah i think you are right. There hasn't been a "peoples car" EV like the original beetle or even the Kia Soul.
If they could get a decent compact ev for around 25k they could sell as many as they can make i think.
It helps that they have several models on the market. Ford and GM have been dragging their feet in making compelling EVs and instead using EVs as a luxury platform.
Also helps to be the only real option for electric "cars" and not suvs/trucks. For things like the EV6 your only real competitor is Tesla and people hate Musk.
I love the design of those cars. It looks like future so much.
As far as I'm aware, Hyundai's quality control is still non-existant to questionable at best. But damn do their cars look nice
Here are the 10 automakers that have initiated the most recall campaigns during 2022 and the total number of vehicles involved:
Ford: 67 recalls, 8,636,265 units
Volkswagen Group: 45 recalls, 1,040,885 units
Fiat-Chrysler/Stellantis: 38 recalls, 3,041,431 units Mercedes-Benz: 33 recalls, 969,993 units
General Motors: 32 recalls, 3,371,302 units
Kia: 24 recalls, 1,458,962 units
Hyundai: 22 recalls, 1,452,101 units
Tesla: 20 recalls, 3,769,581 units
BMW: 19 recalls, 1,000,455 units
Nissan: 15 recalls, 1,568,385 units
It's an EV after all - it's never meant to go the distance
I thought their sister company Kia has been winning initial quality awards to try to improve their reputation in the recent past.
I can’t say for certain for Hyundai but I’d be surprised if they weren’t trying to improve standards.
Really need to be more careful with those engine fires though.
And the oil pump fires, and the trailer hitch fires, and the EV fires...
I'd love to know they're turning things around, but I dunno man, I still haven't seen a lot of proof. Like, what does initial quality even mean? That the car drives off the lot? Fantastic, I hope it does. I'm more concerned with after it hits 60k miles.