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An enrollment wizard will be available through notifications and in Settings, making it easy to enroll in ESU directly from your personal Windows 10 PC. Through the enrollment wizard, you’ll be able to choose from three options:

  • Use Windows Backup to sync your settings to the cloud—at no additional cost..
  • Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points
  • Pay $30 USD (local pricing may vary).

Once you select an option and follow the on-screen steps, your PC will automatically be enrolled. ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026. Starting today, the enrollment wizard is available in the Windows Insider Program and will begin rolling out as an option to Windows 10 customers in July, with broad availability expected by mid-August

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

ESU is inherently bullshit. So they're going to make security upgrades for the OS millions of people are using, but you only get them if you pay? Even though they're committing dev time to make and deploy them, the SECURITY upgrades to the OS yhat millions have already paid for?

What a grift. Either you're paying ESU and there's no dev work (free moneyyy!) or it's literally a 'protection fee' for dev work they're doing anyway (nyeehhh nice PC ye got there, be a shame if we extorted you for it)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Dormammu! I’ve come to bargain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure most people are just looking forward to Windows no longer begging to reboot or just doing it when you turn your back for two seconds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I didn't realize they provide security update to Fedora lol

They're scramble hard right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Or just switch to Linux and run windows on a virtual machine?!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Windows Homs is free, too.

But here's the thing that many people (not you) don't understand. Windows Home is free, as in beer. Linux is free, as in speech, AND free, as in beer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Windows Home isn't free (legally), you can't just install it and have a valid license available without paying money. Most people think Windows is free because you're paying for the license when you buy a prebuilt, you're just not seeing the line item cost.

But either way, Home is a trash fire. At least Pro lets you control more of the annoying aspects of the OS. Home you're just opening up for whatever MS wants to shove down your throat. And even then, just run linux. That's actually free, and a better experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Download the iso and install home. It won't stop you, ask for a key, or attempt to activate later. It just installs, runs, and spies happily.

But, yes, I suppose that you're supposed to pay for it, but they don't seem to care that much, if at all.

I agree that Windows Pro is a slightly better experience than Windows Home, but the right Linux distro for you is where it's at. I usually recommend Mint for newcomers, and not one has had issues (beyond the expected "this looks different" comments). I've installed Elementary for one person who came from a life of Mac, and she dove right in with almost no hiccups. Know your audience, I guess is the lesson here lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Download the iso and install home. It won't stop you, ask for a key, or attempt to activate later. It just installs, runs, and spies happily.

Well sure, anything is free when you steal it. Whether or not they care enough to come after home users, doesn't change the fact that it's not free.

But yea, know your audience and give them something they can use. I made my mother learn mint after the 80th time I had to clean the windows box, and she did well enough with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I meant to download from the official Microsoft site.

Kudos on getting your mum on Linux! I was unable to keep mine on it : /

Maybe I'm missing something, but this is from the "Download Windows 11 Disk Image (ISO) for x64 devices" section from the official Microsoft site, but I don't see any option to buy or mention of it:

Before you begin downloading an ISO Make sure you have:

  • An internet connection (internet service provider fees may apply).
  • Sufficient data storage available on the computer, USB, or external drive you are downloading the .iso file to.
  • A blank DVD disc with at least 8GB (and DVD burner) to create a bootable disc. We recommend using a blank USB or blank DVD, because any content on it will be deleted during installation.
  • If you receive a “disc image file is too large” message while attempting to burn a DVD bootable disc from an ISO file, consider using a higher capacity Dual Layer DVD.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Windows is just a gotcha game now lmao

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I just wish to compliment Microsoft on them accurately prophesying that Windows 10 would be my last windows.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Getting a discount to hand over your data into their cloud so they can train their AIs on it? And hold you hostage in case you dare to switch the OS?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Classic enshittification, they're stealing from Google this should be copyright stricken.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

"Till" is completely valid synonym of until. "'Til" is an informal contraction (and was probably meant to be the actual word "till"). If you're gonna be aggressively prescriptive, at least pick an actual battlefield instead of attacking innocent folks.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Microsoft can die in a fire

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

no thanks microsoft

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This stinks of their enterprise practices. They are masters of creating extremely confusing plans for pricing that involve bundling, discounts for various combinations, etc. In the end, you get a fat ass bill at the end of every month. When you ask them to explain it, they will say that this component was generated by one team, another by a different...

You will never get a straight answer and if you do, it will take weeks. By then you have another bill and you get to start all over.

I am so over Microsoft and their bullshit. I don't use any of their shit at home and I actively remove anything I can of theirs at work. Punting Defender out of our environment was my best day ever.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So all your users are working on Macs or Linux? That's an impressive accomplishment for an enterprise scale work environment.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was easier for our 500+ employees when our CFO pointed out that its either switch to Linux and have a learning curve or see some of your coworkers, maybe even yourself be laid off. We actually saved so much money dumping Microsoft products that we were able to hire tech ambassadors to help the older folks get setup with the new software.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I love this so much. We use Macs at work but there's absolutely no reason we couldn't just use Linux. 60% (guestimated) of the work, across all departments, is done through the browser and the other 40% is software development. I'd much rather have more smart people around than a $2000 locked down laptop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What did you replace Defender with?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

SentinelOne

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

"Meta launches new sponsor hand-branding app"

Me: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"Gmail uses AI to contact debt collectors when it looks like you may not pay on time."

Me: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"Microsoft randomly kills 100 users' children per day until demands are met"

Me: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Me:

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

eat shit and maybe I'll consider watching you eat more.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

I switched to Linux last year. I’m just a teacher but I’ve got pretty good techy skills having grown up in the late 80s with computers. Switching to Linux gave me some small problems at first, but everything works just fine for me. My husband’s been pretty curious seeing me have fun with it and mess around on my computer more. Maybe I’ll get him to switch one day too! 🙃

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

How about "fuck you"?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)
  • Reads this on his iOS phone
  • While playing modern games on fedora workstation 42
  • While all my backups and containers run on a synology nas
  • with a literal blank 2nd hard drive that used to have windows 10 on it but now has nothing
  • while his computer illiterate wife uses her hp laptop just fine with linux

Ya… Go f yourself Microsoft. You used to be the cool kid in town. Now you’re trash.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry to disagree. I've been using Microsoft crap since the days where you had to free up memory in config.sys to load Novell Netware drivers, and never has Microsoft been the cool kid in town. It was always the fat bastard bully kid that would beat and extort the other kids.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

LOL

I’ve been using it that long too, and I suppose you’re right.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Holding security updates hostage is a sicko business strategy. I hope the EU sues them for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Microsoft gonna send someone to smash your kneecaps for talking like this. They are shaking their nice guy image and going full gangster pimp.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When I see stories like this, what annoys me the most, is that people are still dumb enough to use Microsoft, and proprietary software in general.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's not because they're dumb, it's because it's easy and because it's the OS a computer comes with (with the tiny exception of some systems where you can choose linux).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Calling people dumb for using an insanely popular product is pretty unnecessary. Some grandma just playing solitaire on her old PC that she uses to pay bills and whatnot on and you walk by, "you dumbass, use Linux instead!"

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, because some grandma is exactly the kind of people I meant. And not her stupid children or friends who might have helped her with a Linux system instead. /s

My guess is you are just butthurt, because you are part of the problem, and not the solution.