I'll make a nice meal and reflect on what's driving us further from the country we're supposed to be. Thinking of it more like memorial day until there's something to celebrate again.
this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2025
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My friends and I use it as an excuse to have a get together. None of us use it to celebrate the United States or its independence.
Not being American I always found the whole thing very creepy. Like, North Korean military parade-creepy.
For the record, we don't have anything like that where I'm from, but the closest things we do have are also very creepy. Patriotism in general is extremely not cool, honestly.
It's rooted in all that "American Exceptionalism" propaganda crap, for sure.
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I was hoping everyone would turn out for another No Kings event but I guess too many people complained.
If we can’t be proud of the mess we’re in now, maybe we can be proud of the people who speak up, who try to create change. Maybe we can hark back to our origins tearing down oppressive political and corporate systems. Maybe we can hold up the mythical ideas that used to unite us and fight to make them true. It’s our duty as patriotic citizens to set our country on the right path toward one we can be proud of.
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I don't know if I ever did but I certainly don't now.
I mean I always stay home because I'm an introvert, but yeah, mirroring what other's have already said in this thread, I haven't had much to feel patriotic about since at least the Dubya Bush years. So probably more than 20 years of not feeling it.
Kinda interesting how you US-Americans have a certain day for being even more patriotic than the average US-patriotism rest of the time. As a German I personally haven't felt patriotic at any point in my life and most of the people I know (probably more left-leaning than German average) always looked at your patriotism (espacially on July 4th) with a certain lack of understanding. Why even be patriotic? Why always raise the US-flag? Why are there Florida men running through hurricanes with an US-flag? I know independence and stuff, but still why celebrate your patriotism even more on a specific date, even as a more left-leaning person?
The USA has never had an event to make Americans from shame for the country. It isn't like the USA hasn't done shameful acts, but there hasn't been a reconging of what the country has done.
Most of us just like the day off from work, or the holiday pay if you have to work. and that's where it ends.
I mean, I'd think of it as like being proud of your home and the accomplishments of the country. That doesn't seem very odd to me. It's just that lately, I feel like as a nation we are just making so many mistakes and I feel ashamed, not proud of the country.
I have no enthusiasm to raise the US flag this July 4th, excepting maybe showing it upside down as a sign of distress.
When I think about the US and its future, I just get a sinking feeling and I don't feel very happy about it. I'm ashamed how far this country has fallen in the past two decades.
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It's been decades since I've cared about the 4th as an actual holiday. Now it's just a day that I don't have to work.
Good day to march on your White House, perhaps…
I thought about this too. In the past I used to go to protests because I felt that if our leaders saw the protest that they might change their mind about something.
Now, so many of our citizens are so insane, they think you won't actually protest unless George Soros pays you. I also can't picture Trump seeing a protest and saying "I think I'll reconsider..." It feels more futile than ever.
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I normally enjoy some fireworks every year, but have zero interest this year.
I have never really felt patriotic for that date, June 6th is more apropriate, or even better, june 20th (this year)
I haven't "celebrated" the fourth in nearly a decade for this reason. On top of that fireworks are pretty bad for everything and those with PTSD.
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youre not alone
This link is broken
hmmmm try this
https://lemmy.world/post/32286445
the other link is from an instance with a log in requirement
Thanks, that works now