I'm going out to a march on the 4th of July. We're protesting for independence from America
this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2025
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The ONLY reason I give a shit about July 4th this year is that it’s a long weekend and the last chance we’ll have to spend with family before we move out of state in two weeks.
I’m even glad it’s supposed to rain the entire time, so I won’t even feel pressured to celebrate with fireworks!
Aww. Please celebrate - don't give the orange turd the satisfaction of destroying yet more American culture. Also, I won't be happy posting my favourite annual meme:
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I thought you guys don't celebrate it that much any more? Heard it got replaced with a Trump Birthday Military Parade Day or someshit. And it sucked so much that nobody is doing holidays anymore. Sorry, I'm in Europe, the news are coming in slowly from the US these days
Not sure what you're referring to, but the 4th hasn't really changed. Maybe you're confusing it with the (laughable) military parade Trump did for his own birthday?
Personally I've long found patriotism to be a pretty abhorrent concept, but I've always enjoyed the opportunity to spend time with my family regardless. To me, the 4th is much more about community than it is the country. And while this country is fucking awful, I do have a pretty great community around me that I'm grateful for.
As if there was a reason to celebate that cancer country any other year
4th of July? You mean the Ungrateful Colonists Insurgence Day?
After thinking about this myself, I’m starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I’m feeling like I’m just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.
Always have been, always will be.
The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare
Don't worry, once they deported or killed all the ~~Jews~~ illegals the prices will surely come down.
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State-level patriotism is always bullshit to begin with.
That's how you're tricked into loyalty based on the most arbitrary reasons.
Be the messenger of humanity and get curious about the Universe. People are brothers, and there's no pride in being born in one plot of land over the other.
If that's your reaction we need even more murder jets to do a fly over and the already ridiculously sized freedom flags will get even bigger!
But seriously, patriotism is an unnatural artificial and cultivated concept.
Indeed to be used by the state.
As an immigrant to the US, I've always found the blind patriotism commonplace here to be very strange. It feels even more alienating now than ever before.
Common in an authoritarian, warmongering police state.
For them it's invariably other countries that get this label, they can't think outside the box bcs of their propaganda.
Yeah… feels like the meaning behind the holiday has been completely lost. It’s hard to celebrate when so many people are struggling with basic things like housing and healthcare.
I find it reassuring that some people are not proud of grabbing random people off the street to send them to their death with a smile.
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I’ve never been more ashamed to be an American.
I'm a-shamed to be an A-merican,
Where at least now I can't see.
And I won't forget the libs who cried,
Who gave that right to me.
Lemmy sings
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Call for independence from everything GOP and Trump on July 4th?
Flags have become a warning over the last decade or so about the person waving it. It no longer has the hope of a better America, solidarity, or welcome; it’s a symbol of a myopic, selfish, aggro, uneducated person full of performative nationalism and real hatreds.
Our independence was supposed to free the people of kings and tyrants. It’s been 249 years since 1776, we have undone what the Constitution authors fought for.
Our independence was supposed to free the people of kings and tyrants. It’s been 249 years since 1776, we have undone what the Constitution authors fought for.
That's what happens if you stick with a quarter-millennium old prototype of a semi-democratic system.
The constitution was revolutionary and ground-breaking, a quarter millennium ago. But still running that old piece of toilet paper as the basis of a democratic system in 2025 is like driving a Ford Model T today and claiming that it still is the latest and greatest automobile ever created.
In terms an American can understand: "Imagine a car..."
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Unless a large protest is happening in my city, I'm not planning to be outside on July 4.
Plan it
I'm kinda the opposite, but I have the same reasons. I love where I live, I just wish they'd do better and I do what I can to help. I don't need to wave a flag, people can see where I stand by what I do. If that's not patriotism I don't know what is.
I’ll be staying home this year. There is nothing to celebrate. At this point I’d rather watch it all burn down.
I still have hope, until I am forced to emigrate I won't be giving up on us. This country at one point saved my ancestors from doom, I believe it can again. It's actually the "America sucks" crowd we need the most. In the words of AOC: resist, make them make us.
Patriotism leads to nationalism and racism. Fuck patriotism.
Not necessarily. Problem is when patriotism is not defined positively through your countries achievments and striving for self improvement, but through negativity to other people.
The US patriotism evidently revolves around the latter, so does most patriotism i have witnessed in European countries. I cant speak for so many other countries as i havent visited them enough.
So do any countries exhibit what you call positive patriotism, or is this purely a theoretical objection?
Countries as a whole? That is difficult to say. Typically you won't here much from such countries, as they don't enforce themselves on others.
I haven't been necessarily patriotic for a long time because why pledge allegiance to a single nation? The only reason I really care about July 4 is the fireworks. It's more tradition than anything that I see them.
Anyways, both of his terms make me feel vindicated in not being patriotic in a country.
Oh goodness no. America has fallen, what the fuck does July 4th mean.
What, exactly, should I be proud of?
A nation that is moving backwards on human rights, increasing wealth inequality, and got really “mask off” about supporting genocide. A nation that is inherently dysfunctional and wreathed in corruption.
Crossing my fingers for the local firework display barge catch fire in the bay. I just want a fun omen.
yeah. but nothing to do with the country this is personal for me
I grew up with smart parents. We were never patriotic, this country has sucked for decades
I’m very proud to be a Californian. I’m utterly embarrassed to be an American.
No. Though I'm not American which may impact that
that's really unamerican of you
Fuck yeah