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[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Is this her answer to defending Biden’s age? I am patiently waiting to become president when he dies?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean for every president it's a valid concern. Not everyone can live to 95.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

Sure but this means the Biden administration is simultaneously saying that Biden is not too old to be president - but that if he does happen to die of old age then Kamala is ready to serve.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Can someone explain to me why I shouldn’t like Kamala Harris? And if someone says because she hasn’t been an effective VP, could someone show me an example of an effective VP in modern US history?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

As a VP backing up Biden, I think she's swell. As the candidate who has to beat Trump, I don't think she's strong enough. She shat the bed in the primary debates, and she has a complicated record as a prosecutor and previously supported policies that make it easy to criticize. She's either "evolved" on divisive issues, or she's on the wrong side of history.

The same could be said of Biden, but he has the decades of connections and experience, not to mention charisma, that helped him pull ahead in the primary and the general in 2020. I don't like him, and I think he's very beatable, but I think Harris would be much worse. In an open primary, I don't think Harris would win the nomination, even running as an incumbent (like if Biden stepped down). Maybe if Biden wins and then immediately steps down, giving her four years to establish herself, she could craft a new identity. But it is too late for that now.

If Biden were unavailable as a candidate, we'll get four more years of Trump.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Peoples arguments stem from her political career before VP specifically due to her being a cop, her strong support for stop and frisk, and some terrible policies which harmed the black community by propagating their mass incarceration along with poor standards of education and access to public services. To be clear though, still better than the guy who states he'll be a dictator for "a day" whose lawyer claimed in court he could have his political opposition killed and as long as he wasn't impeached, it'd be legal

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

Additionally, Biden is one of the biggest proponents of the drug war and was more than happy to destroy people's lives over cannabis, all based on his own anecdotal fear towards drugs.

In 1986, then-Senator Joe Biden authored the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986–a critical component of the broader War on Drugs that devastated low-income communities of color through mass criminalization and systemic police violence.

Biden and Harris are just a step below Hillary Clinton when it comes to how muddy and shady they are. They really need more progressive people within the party who have the ability to rally Democrats to change. Like what Bernie tried, but find someone young who can actually bring about the change.

It's all better then Trump and the Republicans, but Harris and Biden are as right wing as you get from a democrat.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cheney was pretty effective. Not that that was a good thing.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Right? Like, do we need to heat her up before she’s served or is she good at room temperature?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One of Biden's biggest mistakes was choosing Harris as his VP, she's been pretty much worthless as a VP, other than doing her tiebreaker votes, but I'm pretty sure anyone in that position would've done the same exact thing. Still though, apart from recent history, VP's have usually been pretty much ceremonial in that role, so maybe it's more a return to form having someone like her there, rather than a Cheney or a Biden actually being considered a key part of the administration.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Biden being a VP was the only other reason to vote for him besides his stated ability to negotiate with Senate Republicans...

They were both bullshit reasons. When a candidate the party likes can't win a primary, they make them a VP and then claim that makes them experienced.

Hell, with Biden they even said that wouldn't happen because of his age, then over a decade later he still became president.

There's an obsession about name recognition, ignorant of the fact that even the most politically disengaged Americans will know both candidates before the general even starts.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also, one of the critical qualities people seek for a VP is that they’re boring.

You dont pick a vp that’s popular- they might get more popular than you- and you don’t pick a vo that’s “controversial”

One might risk more, if the person is from a battleground state and is popular,

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Biden gave her basically all meh jobs as VP too. Might have been on purpose. Give her something to do without setting her up to primary him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

she wasn't popular enough to primary him. there was some issues, IIRC, with her history as a prosecutor (of the "tough on crime" sort.) She's certainly more qualified that Trump, or anyone trump would pick as a VP at this point; but I don't think she'd win her own election... even if Biden had worked to set her up to replace him.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I mean I would hope so. That's one of the biggest jobs of being vice president.

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