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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (10 children)

They're just going to push people to the cheaper units at this point.

I was looking at sous vide cookers a few months back and was considering ANOVA but they were too expensive. Opted for a generic one instead.

The fact that they're more expensive and require a subscription for what's essentially a set of presets that my cheap unit has for free is just ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I bet the app requires cloud hosting for it to run, and its starting to eat away at the profits they made.

If it needs nothing but bluetooth, then this a pure money grab.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Usually, if it needs cloud hosting, it's because they're collecting your data. That presumably is a revenue stream for them.

I have one of these, and I haven't touched the app. Works perfectly fine without it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I used the app once when I first got mine and never needed it again. I haven’t had a need for it as I start it, and then come back later. If I need a timer I can set one on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Honestly the Bluetooth app is dog shit. Haven't used it in years because it's far easier to just roll the dial. ANOVA should be paying me for distress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

My new microwave rotates for free!!. The 9 dollar MW subscription gets me 500W, the 15 dollar gets me 1500W and with the $30 monthly subscription I can get 3000W! It's wonderful!

[–] [email protected] 161 points 8 months ago (15 children)

Translation:

“Fuck you for not replacing your perfectly fine and still working 10 year old machine and making our line go up more. We’re gonna do our best to brick it because we want all of your money.”

Fuck capitalism. I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function

Same. It’s becoming more difficult every day.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

And that's so sad. There are a lot of (mainly Elderly people) who don't even have a smartphone who now often can't use the most basic stuff necessary because it needs an app.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

First Inwas like Yeeeah to all the "smart stuff". But more and more I'm thinking - what happens to current cars after some time? When all the connected crap gets disconnected? Currently you can fix and drive any old piece of junk and drive it in theory forever. What happens when the smart cars lose connection to mothership? What happens when all the electronics go bad and there is no way to fix it? Same goes for your fridge, coffee maker, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

In the long run, having it all running Free Software is the only way to ensure it can be supported indefinitely. I have a zero-tolerance policy against proprietary software in my devices, and you should too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Y'all should read Unauthorized Bread from Cory Doctorow. This hits so close to home.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For those of us on Android, can't we download the old APK which still talks Bluetooth and just never interact with the web/wifi for these?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

2$/month for a fucking thermostat....

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The wifi ones work with Home Assistant so you won't lose remote features. The bad news is you have to run home assistant and set it up.

As for the BT only version you need more work and a BT proxy. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/anova-ble-control-via-ble-proxy/550295

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The original models will. While Home assistant has an Anova integration, it is cloud dependent and it's the cloud that will discontinue support. As I understand it.

Local control uses a Bluetooth bridge which I guess is my next project.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

BT Proxy Bridges are super easy to make. Just flash a esp32 with the premade package and power it. I have one on every room of my house just so whatever I have will just work everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yup! I have the stuff, just haven't gotten around to flashing one yet. Working on a wind meter at the moment.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Oof, you too with the enshittificafion and planned obsolescence, Anova?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cost or no cost, IoT should not be able to brick devices on the whim - or unexpected dissolution - of a faceless corporation.

Unfortunately too many people are trusting of monolithic entities which promise the moon and then decide what they really meant was "bend over".

I may be channelling a bit of Louis Rossman here.

That said, the other comments here suggest that the device in question still has all features when accessed from the front panel, which is a step up from a lot of other IoT behaviour. Owners who don't want to pay for the app should still disconnect it from any connectivity and keep it that way just in case the manufacturer decides to remove that functionality as well.

And if it stops working altogether without network connectivity, take the L and maybe mail it back to the company's head office with no return address. Let them deal with the e-waste.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

entities which promise the moon and then decide what they really meant was “bend over”.

LOL, nice one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I was given one of those. I tried the app once and immediately uninstalled it. It's worthless. The "let's put AI in your computer mouse, toothbrush, and toilet scrubber!" of ten years ago.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I have one of these. The sous vide cooker itself is very nice and easy to use, I’d highly recommend it. The app is a bit clunky and not necessary to use the device. I certainly wouldn’t pay $2 a month for it.

The app lets you set a temperature and cook time, but you can also do this using the buttons on the cooker. Sometimes the WiFi pairing is finicky, so honestly I skip the app half the time. The app also lets you view and write recipes. I guess the big advantage is you can click “start cooking” and it automatically sets the device temp and time, but doing it manually isn’t much harder. I’m also not wowed by the in-app recipe selection, and generally just get recipes from the internet.

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