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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wish people would stop threatening companies switching to subscription that they'll lose business. The c-suite know they'll lose much of the current customer base. They're banking on the data telling them that the market acceptance of their product is gaining traction with new customers.

That will float them until they tell grandfathered users to go screw themselves and will face all sorts of new charges to use their app as previously established.

This is what happens when you have companies run by MBAs and lawyers. They respond to the data, and as long as the data says any negative responses can be overcome in some other way, they'll do it. They don't care about their clientele (or their employees for that matter). They care about the extra millions of dollars they were promised for the degrees they paid for.

Start finding alternate solutions to any product that connects to the internet. Then they can't spy on you or handcuff a sub fee to their product.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is the absolute worst possible way for me to first hear about a product and company that I would have otherwise been interested in

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I personally think it's perfectly reasonable for a company to eventually start charging for a service they provide that costs them money to provide. They might bakenin some number of years into the product price, but they can't keep providing the service for free forever.

It seems like something that should be expected if we do want certain services to be provided and maintained. Heck, I also think that offering a subscription is better than the usual alternative, which is that the company just shuts the service down.

However, the way this is done is almost always slimy and shitty and likely is only going to get solved by regulation.

  • It's incredibly rare that IOT devices NEED cloud integration. Most of the time it really SHOULD just be local-only, or have a local option.
  • If they are going to start charging for something to continue to work, unless there was already an explicit agreement that - and when - this would happen, they need to provide an alternative.
    • Either documentation or open software for how an alternate cloud - including local - could be used instead.
  • That info really should be mandatory to be made available beforehand in case the company shuts down.
  • The subscription fee needs to be reasonable.
    • Personally, I think $24/year is still far too much, but it's still WAY more reasonable than some I've seen.

Should be a no-brainer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Thing is they needed to factor this j to the cost of selling the device.

It basically costs them nothing to ru the service for this device. If they failed to calculate that as part of the sale price, that’s not the consumers fault.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People who made accounts before they start charging will be grandfathered in for free.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

OK, cool, that's also better than normal.

Until that changes, or they shut it down.

Edit: ah, I missed that in the article and everything.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Other than my computer, phone and xbox, I own nothing at all that can connect to the Internet. It's incredibly stupid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I own some things that can, but that doesn't mean they do.

My bloody dishwasher asked for my wifi password when I first connected it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I have a smart TV and a Bluray player as well, but other than that, only phones, computers, and my Switch connect to the internet. My next TV will likely not be smart, because screw ads, and I've ripped all of my Blurays.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

My last two TVs were dumb ones.

It is getting harder find dumb TVs because the smart stuff included with most TVs subsidizes keeping the initial price low. Manufactures are betting millions of dollars purchasers will sign up for the monthly apps.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've stopped buying TVs. It's difficult to find a dumb one nowadays. I watch on my phone or my computer monitor.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I just dont connect the TV to the internet and hook a separate media center up to the HDMI port.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Would be nice, but I have kids, and it's really hard to watch a movie together on a phone. I need another soon-ish, so I'm going to look into hospitality TVs and projectors.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I forgot my ANOVA when I moved this summer. Now, I'm not that sorry I did.

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