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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

Add them to the list.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you primary these establishment fucks out you don't have this problem.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Okay, just hear me out for a second.... I completely agree they should endorse him, but rather than just saying they are irreverent (though this may actually be the case) I would like to know in clear and concise terms WHY they are waiting/failing to endorse the man whom was chosen by the people. I think knowing why they won't endorse him is very relevant to the discussion. Eith

TLDR; their silence is very telling.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (19 children)

I don't know about the rest of them, though I certainly have my suspicions, but with gillibrand it's very clearly just racism. That interview she gave was extremely telling.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's rich people. The reason is rich people.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

They've given interviews. According to them, Mamdani hasn't yet proven his viability among the general population, he only won a primary where 15% of the DNC participated with a plurality vote of 43%. Furthermore, some of them represent districts that hardlined against Mamdani such as neighborhoods in the southeastern part of Brooklyn. Mamdani won Brooklyn overall but the difference between neighborhoods he won and lost were very stark.

I agree with you, though, that they should endorse Mamdani. Any concerns about his type of socialism can be easily quelled with Mamdani's clear opposition to "communist countries".

Not endorsing Mamdani is just asking to split the vote and give Republicans the chance to fuck everything up.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I don't like 'viability among gen pop'. It's like assessing his electability. Doesn't matter, he was chosen in a democratic primary vote. He's the democratic candidate for mayor. If they expect us to fall in line and vote blue, they need to fall in line and endorse blue.

Rich fucks

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I agree but you have to focus on outcomes. Does endorsing him help or harm him? Does endorsing him help or harm themselves? The answer to these questions might very well be "I don't know".

If some general polls shine a big awesome light on Mamdani being the best possible candidate to defeat the Republican nominee, then hopefully that is more than enough reason for these few Democrats to fall in line behind him. If he polls at like 25%, it's going to start being time to look at other options.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Just looked up the bright blue square on Brooklyn - it's Borough Park: "home to one of the largest Orthodox Jewish communities outside Israel, with one of the largest concentrations of Jews in the United States"

Hmm! I don't think it's his policies they are against...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Yeah it should come as no surprise, he's very openly pro-palestine and during the primaries the media framed a perfect picture of Mamdani for Palestine and Cuomo for Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is one of those situations where not certifying the guy and just getting out of the way is an absolutely terrible idea if you enjoy your position. He got young voters out. The same people who are pretty decent at getting out and organizing for protests and with the way things are going these fish may grow teeth. Maybe not sharks, though no one messes with piranhas all the same.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Hopefully they all become irrelevant sooner or later.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

No surprises on that list tbh

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Adams is still their pick, even if he's (I). They just put Cuomo up under (D) to try to beat the leftist since Adams is now shamed.

Trust me, the Dem establishment is just fine with Adams as mayor of NYC.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Did those politicians say "vote blue no matter who" or was that people online in an effort to avoid gestures broadly?

Genuine question, they've always been massive disappointments who would benefit from that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Anyone who has ever used that phrase un-ironically is politically tone deaf, or a Republican agent. I get the sentiment, and even agree with it, but it doesn't communicate what people who use it think it does. The kind of people who use that phrase are the ones I blame most for gestures broadly.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I specifically said "vote blue no matter who", because while yes, there are Establishment Democrats that exist, Extermination Republicans are quite objectively fucking worse.

Because if Fascist 47 wasn't in office, we could at least try to get shit done, instead of putting out 17+ daily fires.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So what were we doing for the last 50 years?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Well for starters we haven't had a Democrat senate supermajority without caucus since 1979, we haven't even given them 50 since 2012-2013, and now everything is going to shit, so...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Fascist 47 hasn't been the president that long, and anyone with a brain knew he would tear this country down.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can't possibly be equating the current situations with anything in the past

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Rebrand: Vote Blue, because what else can you do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

A lot actually but that would require people to get politically educated and we all know how well that has worked out.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I mean it might work with Luigi pic in the background. But we all know that won't happen.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Not specifically, no. Though in 2020 and ‘24 they were definitely on about party unity

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

Thankfully they self-identify as those who need to be replaced

Saves a little time

[–] [email protected] 81 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Why the fuck is schumer still in office?! Hes the very definition of a dickless, useless democrat. Fuck that guy, just get lost useless boomer, let someone who gives a shit take the seat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Schumer is not the worse one, he's trying to endorse Mamdani without using the word endorsement to not upset his donors: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5368933-schumer-jeffries-mamdani-nyc/

Comparing the mild cynism with the backstabbing idiots that are going to implode the Democratic Party puts him on "just a bit shitty" list in this case.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (4 children)

He's WORSE than useless. Not only is he a Manchin level shill for fossil fuel interests, he's said that his job is to "keep the left Pro Israel", a statement so blatant that he'd call out anyone ascribing that sentiment to him for using the antisemitic "dual loyalty" trope.

There's literally REPUBLICANS in Congress right now that are less awful than he is! Imagine that: the Senate leader of what the Dem leadership pretends to be the Left being worse than some actual fascists 🤬

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

money. same as the rest who vote pro-fascist

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 days ago

AOC will probably primary him. Schumer is at something like a 2 decade low in approval while AOC polls much higher state-wide.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Huge correlation with AIPAC being their top donors, fyi.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

the last they want is non-aligned democrat to israel.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And that right there is the the key! Is Sirius about serving their corporate masters and their deep pockets

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Find me a politician on the US national stage who isn't funded by AIPAC.

Massie doesn't count.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ilhan Omar, Bernie Sanders, Rashida Tlaib, Summer Lee, AOC (though she's compromised with the party leadership on Israel's genocide to an abhorrent degree nonetheless), Ayanna Presley, Cory Bush (successfully primaried over it) and Jamaal Bowman (ditto), and everyone else not listed here.

They're a small minority for sure, but they exist and pretending otherwise just feeds into the manipulative establishment "electability" narrative that they use to poison the public against progressive candidates.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago

I find it incredibly ironic and enlightening that the one Jewish congressperson I can name off the top of my head is on this list.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What do you mean national stage? Because I can think of at least a handful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I mean someone who's actually been featured in national news, and would be known across the country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For example, there is a New York state congress versus the US Federal Congress, they probably meant a distinction there because obviously state congressmen won't get very much PAC money.

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