I'm a LAW AND ORDER REPUBLICAN and I'm going to vote for the CONVICTED FELON over the COP!
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I have a quick question as someone not from the US. What is the general opinion that people have of Kamala Harris? Do people voting Democrat have an overall positive impression of her? Or are there people who could be disappointed with the choice?
I'm in Trump country so I am relaying their opinions not my own. "Whore who slept her way to the top", "lier that is letting the border crisis happen", " hypocritic that ruined young peoples lives over pot even though she smoked it too".
Otherwise nothing burger, and besides the border debate all of the personal attacks are honestly minor compared to how Trump supporter view Trump out here (you know "he's not a good man but ...").
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I have heard literally 0 news about her for this entire presidency. She's probably fine. Definitely better than Trump, so, ya know. Voting time
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I’d say largely neutral. Progressives don’t love her because she was a prosecutor. She has a bit of a reputation for opportunism and lacks charisma but pretty standard democrat overall.
Politically? The general public sees Kamala Harris as a nothingburger. She's practically a blank slate despite spending the last four years as VP. Nobody's going to be disappointed because the average person only knows her as a background character.
It's the best option the Dems have got, but we'll see how much they want to win when they announce the VP candidate nomination.
From the US and I pay a lot of attention to politics.
Her past is she was a bulldog in the courtroom, absolutely a firebrand and ready to take on anyone. By making her VP, her job was mostly to not make the administration look bad, which is a tough job for a firebrand so for years it felt like she was put in the back and kept quiet.
Roe v Wade decision happened, making the abortion argument on the side of the Republicans getting what they wanted, Biden is a Catholic and male so completely uncomfortable using the fact that abortion is the winning ticket item for the Dems so Harris has been beating that drum hard and getting out. GRANTED the media has been focusing on "Biden too old!" (Legit had to learn a Biden policy from BBC because American news isn't going to talk about that) so she's still feeling a relative unknown to the country at large.
There are people calling for wanting the DNC to do a vote, but we're past that marker, there's people disappointed, and then there's a lot of people excited. Right now this election is going to shape up to be more "interesting" than Bush v Gore or Trump v Hillary.
She's generally average from what I've heard amongst my friends. Not a slam dunk but not stumbling over herself. I think she'll really have to prove herself and release a strong platform to sway any voters. The good news is that a decent number of people are going to vote for her just because she's not Trump.
I suspect the real problem for some Americans will be a woman as president...which is just about how screwed America is right now.
Pretty notably she doesn't have any big skeletons in her closet (that I know of at least) that Republicans can latch on to and create drama over.
but - from what I've heard while there is a vocal minority of women who are happy about roe being overturned, the vast vast majority of women are not happy about it. For a lot of women born after Roe, for example, it was a given that they had the right to get an abortion, and people took it away from them. I was worried about a woman being nominated - but honestly it might be the perfect time to nominate a woman.
On one side you have a bunch of old white men literally taking away women's rights. On the other side you have an actual strong woman who wants to codify those rights into law.
Every election with abortion rights on the ballot has gone to democrats since the roe repeal if I'm not mistaken
I actually did not know that. I think them finishing off Roe was one of the worst things from a strategy standpoint the GOP could have done. They could have done nothing and had people voting for them for that for years. By doing something all they did was lose one of their best campaign talking points and piss off a lot of people who wanted Roe. I hope it continues to backfire on them.
Not an American, but wasn't the school duty kind of a big deal?
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I think he will don pipe and slippers and spend his remaining time with his family. It's the right thing to do.
I'm not sure, but I think it makes it very unlikely he'll become president.
Only time will tell.
Seems good, man. Basically that makes the election:
Decision 2024: Cop vs Felon
Who will America choose?
Yeah I don't think DNC leadership appreciates the current public sentiment against law enforcement in the country. Based on her career, her would be base are the moutb breezers simping for trump
For any self respecting liberal, you just have to ignore her job. There is no good way to spin it besides, she knows how to run a shop of prosecutors lol never, just don't fucking mention it.
Bizarro fucking time line tho jfc
I know we sometimes feel like the majority here on the fediverse, but we have to remember that most democrats don’t feel the same way about cops that the “far” left does. Most democrats are just capitalist liberals that enjoy the status quo and maybe some slightly progressive policies.
Ehh good point... Although I think it is also generational. Boomer Democrats still pretend like they didn't know what redlining was while living in redlined communities lol
So yeah that guy will vote
All there is left to do is to fucken send it. Talk to every democrat you know and make sure they know when and how they will vote on voting day and commit to it. Hit up all your younger friends (who might forgor 💀) get that young vote out there cause the older of us most likely know what we are doing already.
I'd love to say it will change the likely outcome, but I'm pretty sure no candidate has ever been subbed in this late in the race and gone on to win. History says people prefer a known quantity. Even if Harris is the new candidate, people don't pay attention to VPs, so she is kind of an unknown quantity to your average voter. AFAIK she hasn't participated in any "proper" debates with Trump
On the other hand, assuming it is Harris, the right's attacks on her are likely to be a lot more openly bigoted, which will lead to less people wanting to vote Republican. The Republicans tend to do better when the criticisms of their opponents are based on something legitimately concerning, like Biden's age. We are about to see some incredibly disgusting rhetoric from republicans, and it's liable to make them less popular. Much as I dislike all establishment neoliberal democrats, I have to say I feel sorry for Harris for what she is about to endure if she becomes the nominee. The right has gotten a lot more bold in their willingness to take the mask off since Obama was president, so if you thought the shit he had to wade through was bad, it's nothing compared to what they will fling at Harris.
The biggest thing at this point is that it's way too late to have a primary, so whoever is selected, they will be subjected to the very legitimate criticism that they were simply appointed as the nominee by the DNC. That would have basically been true even if there was a primary, but at the very least the primaries create the illusion of a democratic process. People aren't going to be psyched to vote for Biden's last minute substitute.
People aren't going to be psyched to vote for Biden's last minute substitute.
I sure am. Considering the filthy alternative.
Actually the presidential candidate was selected on the day of the convention up until around 1970. They had conventions that would last days, they would lock the doors until a candidate was picked. Then ideally everyone stacked behind the final candidate.
I'm pretty sure there was actually almost a contested convention in like 1980. So no, this is objectively wrong and a bit of a modern convention.
It's been true for roughly the last half a century that there has been a clear presumptive candidate going into the general. And in any case, the purpose of a primary is to select the candidate. As I said I think it's going to be detrimental that Harris hasn't actually won a primary, even though the primaries are a sham.
Doing more research, candidates that were picked from contested conventions are absolutely less likely to win in historically.
So close enough with a candidate as strong with his party as Trump.
Exactly. It's extremely late in the game for this to happen. I believe Biden absolutely needed to not run for a second term, but he should have made that decision a year ago, not a few months before the general election. The stubbornness of the DNC has likely doomed the US to a second Trump presidency. I hope I'm wrong though.
the right’s attacks on her are likely to be a lot more openly bigoted
They're already dusting off the ole Obama birther playbook and asking if she's qualified to be President due to citizenship.