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American political ideology as a whole has shifted left in recent years, but women are becoming even more liberal, according to Gallup.

The survey data, released Wednesday, shows that while the country remains largely center-right, the percentage of those identifying as or leaning liberal has increased over the past three decades, and is now just 1 percent under it’s all-time high.

Roughly 36 percent of adults identify as conservative, 25 percent as liberal and the rest identify as either moderate or unsure, according to the poll.

When broken down by gender ideology, women in the youngest and oldest age groups said they were more likely to identify as liberal.

Women ages 18-29 were 40 percent more likely to be liberal in 2023, a slight decrease from 41 percent in 2022 and 44 percent in 2020, but still higher than the 30 percent in 2013. Those ages 65 and older were 25 percent more likely to identify as liberal — a slight increase from the 21 percent reported in 2013.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (52 children)

American political ideology as a whole has shifted left in recent years

Pfffffffffff... 😂🤦‍♀️
The American political landscape doesn't even have the left on it.

In all honesty, it's really fucking depressing that despite the blatant and open attack by one party on women's rights, and the complete impotence of the other to restore, or hell, even fucking address what bare minimum rights they once had, outside of a campaign speech, more women haven't realised that no one in the system is serving them, and shift to the actual left, but sadly the propaganda seems just too powerful (or on some cases, the other privileges still too comfortable to risk, even in the face of loss of autonomy to the state).

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reading articles like this always remind me of this The Dollop about a [teacher](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment%29) who essentially created a cult to demonstrate how Hitler was able to convince people to go along with Fascism that they might otherwise be opposed to.

EDIT - And now I know.you need to use %29 to escape the closing bracket on the url markdown.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not gonna matter when the dumbasses elect a fascist rapist criminal.....

Edit. This dumbass can't spell..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

i'm not in this demographic, but i have also become more 'liberal' as time goes on.. and i started as a progressive minnesota DFLer.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Well conservatism, especially in the US, is extremely hostile to women, so that makes sense. It's also hostile to a bunch of other outgroups. And the environment. And truth.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

If it was hostile to rich people, it would be gone by now.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Pure anecdote but I think it's representative of the bigger shitshow Republicans brought upon themselves:

My MIL voted for Trump in 2016 and was a lifelong Republican. Because she has two daughters and is quite a proponent of strong independent women, after seeing the reversal of Roe and watching The Handmaid's Tale, she is now fervently anti-Republican.

After seeing that sudden paradigm shift in beliefs, it gave me a little hope. It also proves yet again that when Republicans actually get to implement the policy they want, it is deeply unpopular.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I would say that you are an idiot/corrupt/rich if you are a conservative woman/black/LGBT/minority

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The American political system has done nothing but ratchet to the right for about a hundred years.

It's so far right that people think liberals are left wing. That shit is center right lmao

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was my thought when they said X identified as conservative, Y liberal, the rest moderate or unsure.

How about none of the above since they're all right of center?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Are you guys referring to the labels as applied to the Democratic party, or the people who self-identify as one or the other?

Because while I think it's generally fair that the Democratic party is center-right (largely absorbing any half-relevant positions Republicans once had), self-identifying liberals especially of youth and women probably are leftist despite colloquially referring to liberal. In that respect I'd imagine most of these people are effectively Social Democrats by European standards; meaning a mixed bag of regulated markets combined with a strong national government and select nationalized industries (eg, medical insurance). Basically the Nordic Model.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Social democrats and market socialists. The issue is that Lemmy loves to insist on the idea that liberalism and leftism are not compatible, which is an outdated, reductive idea.

Liberalism is just the idea that individual liberty is critical to democratic agency. Myself, and basically every other contemporary leftist of consequence, would argue that democratic agency is also critical to socialism as well.

The only place where this is a controversial take are internet forums where "leftism" means "violent revolutionary fan service" and the participants are, in turn, educated entirely within this framework which exists basically nowhere in the academic mainstream.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

a mixed bag of regulated markets combined with a strong national government and select nationalized industries (eg, medical insurance). Basically the Nordic Model

So liberal in exactly the same sense American democrats are.. People not liking that "liberal" is a negative in any circle left of those who consider themsleves that, doesn't change what it means..

https://medium.com/the-simulacrum/the-nordic-model-is-not-a-socialist-model-it-is-capitalist-bbe828d17a8a

https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, not necessarily. Social Democracy is one-step further left on the spectrum when considering a balance between Free Markets versus total nationalization and closed markets within the purview of a functioning Democracy. In essence, a truly mixed economy with a strong welfare foundation and regulator control rods for the markets. For all intents, the progressive-left of the Democratic party are Social Democrats while the mainline "corporate dems" are ostensibly Liberals.

Tankies dreams' aside, markets & trade aren't going away anytime soon.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

False. The entire political spectrum of the US has shifted right, and people haven't changed a bit. They just noticed.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems to me that for the most part, the conservatives have become more extreme and as a result people are saying "I guess I'm a liberal now".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s been recent studies that show Millennials (my generation) aren’t getting more conservative as they get into middle age. And while I don’t think I’m getting much more conservative, if at all, part of me wonders if it’s more that the party of conservatives is just outpacing us in their mad dash to the right.

Like, I definitely have some further-left ideals and some more moderate-left ones, but damn if the conservatives aren’t going full auth-right faster than I can moderate my views to even see where they’re coming from.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unless I’m reading those graphs on the Gallup page wrong, the only two groups with an upward movement at the end are old women and young men? Everyone else was shown as decreasing from previous highs.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/609914/women-become-liberal-men-mostly-stable.aspx

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Women ages 18-29 were 40 percent more likely to be liberal in 2023, a slight decrease from 41 percent in 2022 and 44 percent in 2020, but still higher than the 30 percent in 2013. Those ages 65 and older were 25 percent more likely to identify as liberal — a slight increase from the 21 percent reported in 2013.

But women of that age group need to vote! Seniors turnout is historically higher than the younger age groups and that trend needs to change.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seniors will always have the retirement advantage, where they actually have time again in their lives to participate in politics.

All the more reason why its so important to push get-out-to-vote campaigns for younger people. Its the young 20-year-olds who are worried about their kid's activities or work, or things that would get distracted and forget to vote.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (38 children)

Who woulda thought that taking away women's rights for their own bodies would have blowback?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

They're probably just about now realizing they should have taken away the right to vote first, the right to self-determination second. Rookie mistake.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

These people don't see women as people, so I'm sure they're shocked.

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Weird, it's almost like electing the pussy grabber in chief turned women off from the Republican party. Strange how that happened. There's also the whole Roe vs. Wade thing literally killing women.

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