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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wish the homeserver portability would be worked on more. The ability to change homeserver would really allow people to more easily move on from matrix.org.

Myself included ;).

Optimally it would even allow the switch "after the fact", so after your original homeserver is down, assuming your client has a local copy of the server-side secret storage. It would need to be based on some cryptographic identity then, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It's nice that this exists, but even for this I'd prefer to use an open source tool.

And it of course helps with migration only if the old HS is still online..

I think most practically this migration function would be built inside some Matrix client (one that would support more than one server to start with), but I suppose a standalone tool would be a decent solution as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, this would be a great feature - but it's a big issue to implement. It's talked about in this video, worth watching if you're curious about it.

As far as status go, this issue on the matrix spec is what you want to follow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Not trying to be a dick but the Executive Director can take a fucking pay cut.

I found a reddit thread from 4 months ago where he said his salary was $170k/year. I'm not saying he is making obscene money, but if that's nearly 15% of all operating costs he can shave that down to $80k-$100k and still live comfortably if he's willing to accept a more austere standard of living.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be paid well, but he's getting a damn sight better pay than moderators and community managers who seem to make up 50% of the budget for multiple people: the trust and safety team as well as the other employees at the foundation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

170k for running a company? Shit. I wouldn't do that. You can make just as much being a halfway competent developer, and it's way less stress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess you live in the USA? No one makes this amount of money

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Just looked on that link for the UK. The average is listed as £63k, which is $85k.

So you're not exactly disproving the point that that type of high salary is a US thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Funnily enough, it shows the localised amount.

For me in France it shows 50k€ to 69k€, so $58k to $80k at current exchange rates

It just confirms that this is USA only haha

Btw glassdoor sucks. Forces you to have an account and register work shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

80k plus all of society's trappings of France. Dude, it's not even a comparison. Worker's rights, healthcare, public transit, safety, security...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Indeed, but it's understandably a super high amount compared to what we get. If you're in good shape, you get way more money. If not, you probably get (a lot) less.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good shape? I think something got lost in translation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I meant good health, no (mental) illness, no medical treatment, already have somewhere to live...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Right. For perspective, I once paid $200 for a single Xray (needed 3, total $600, not counting the doctors bill). And that's with health insurance.

If you have to go to urgent care, expect to pay close to $1000 for simple needs, much higher than that for more complex needs. An ambulance ride can cost upwards of $5000, and an airlift is several times that.

So better not be too much into sports, or trauma will drain your bank account.

Then you add the complete absence of consumers rights and little to no oversight on industrial activity. Lead and PFA poisoned water, food additives that are banned in most of the developed world, sugar in everything,... It's near impossible not to get sick here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You can't just look at the exchange rate. You have to look at cost and standard of living.

Someone in the US making 100k is not doing as well as someone in France making 70k€

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And a 80k$ salary in France amounts to around 125k$ cost for the employer. So 170k$ isn't that much - I actually know French developers and network engineers that make similar money. The French ITsec architect I interviewed last year would have cost me (converted) around 150k$.

So 170k$ is absolutely not out of the normal range here.

Talking about France: The French government could start to properly support matrix.org as they use it for tChap. The same goes for Germany with the "Behördenmessenger"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So 170k$ isn’t that much

If that's the amount the company pays, then yea. If this is the amount the employee receives, then that's a lot. Like really.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As we are looking at the company expenditures here, it's the former.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why would it display the priced paid by the company like this, when it doesn't for other countries like France though? Seems weird

Unless USA companies don't pay taxes when paying a salary? But I don't really believe that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, my bad, the later. Sorry

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It must not be that stressful if you have $170k leftover to pay yourself.

Most people work more stressful jobs for considerably less. We should stop giving CEOs a pass.

This shouldn't need to be said, but most people are useful idiots so here we are.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're missing the point. There are easier jobs in the same industry for the same pay.

We're not comparing tech CEO to roofers. We're comparing them to other people in tech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Uhh, no.

This is directly the point: Most people work more stressful jobs for considerably less. We should stop giving CEOs a pass.

Oh, and don't forget about this one!

but most people are useful idiots so here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Depends on what that title actually means. Viewing it as a pie chart skews it so you don't realize that $170k in USD is pretty mediocre for a Director of Engineering role. If the project dies without this person, and that's what they need in salary to make it worth it to keep them there, then that's what they get paid.

It's not like they're even making an obscene amount of money ffs. That's a middling engineering salary, and this person is running the whole show. You should see what other "director" jobs at much shittier companies get paid. I think twice this amount would be a weak guess. If this person was a prick, they'd be milking that goat and taking all the free money.

This is an open source project backed by a non-profit foundation, granted, but this person is taking a massive pay cut just by working this job. Think about how that might impact their life to make that choice while trying to have a family.

$170k salary still won't you a fucking house in this country unless you live in the middle of nowhere, and this person is almost certainly in a major tech hub city, so that money means diddly when trying to pay the bills. It's barely above the poverty line in Silicon Valley after taxes for reference.

Everyone in here complaining because they make half this and think it's a lot of money because they live in Bumfuck, Idaho has no idea what it costs to live in the larger tech hubs around the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don’t have to buy a house every year

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, but you do have to make enough to convince the bank to loan you the money to buy it. Houses in major cities cost WAY more than $170k.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

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