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i mean harold ford jr is a conservative fox news pundit.
He’s a Democrat, of course he’s conservative. It doesn’t make his statement about helping Biden any less true.
Is Adam Smith a conservative news pundit too?
He’s a Democrat, of course he’s conservative.
and yet one of the most pro labor, pro worker, pro union presidents we've had in a long time is a democrat right now.
Railroad Union buster Biden?
You confused the terms above with pro Genocide.
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We didn't need them to admit it, and Bernie endorsed Biden just the other day. It wouldn't surprise me if Biden were being pushed out the exact same way for being "too progressive." The fact that the left wing of the DNC has been supporting him suggests this is the case.
That's odd because the only reason there's leverage to remove Biden is because the party thought he wasn't progressive enough in terms of Gaza.
Removing him because of his terrible debate is only politically feasible for Democrats because he has been losing in head-to-head polls since almost exactly October 7th.
I think AOC and Sanders are probably thinking of something else. My hunch, is they assume Republicans will challenge the existence of any Democrat on the ballot not named Joe Biden for some sort of rules violation, the decision will go to the Supreme Court, and the court will decide on returning 45 to the White House.
I think they just know that they're not the voices that could ever convince Joe Biden's ego to stand down, and if he holds on they'd be the ones to suffer most for rebellion.
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Good going. Let's argue and divide the Democrats when it needs unity the most.
"Oh man this is very inconvenient to the echo chamber. Please move on everyone nothing to see here"
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Former congressman Harold Ford, former chair of the Democratic Leadership Council and banking executive, made a similar point on Fox. “I was an elite that supported you in 2020,” Ford said. “And said that we should do everything we possibly could do to advantage you against Bernie Sanders, because I thought Bernie Sanders’ politics were detrimental to the party and to the country.”
From Harold Ford's Wiki
In April 2021, Ford joined Fox News as a political contributor.[7] He frequently appears on Special Report as a panel member and was named a co-host of The Five in January 2022.
Hey great going democratic party leadership, you've always looked like incompetent morons, now you look like corrupt incompetent morons!
SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE. YOU STOLE OUR FUTURE TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
"Fox News pundit now openly admits wanting to YET AGAIN fool people into helping billionaires get gigantic GOP tax cuts like in 2016 which was Bernie's worst nightmare".
2016: PROFITS WERE INCREASED GREATLY
SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE.
We should have had more people wanting to vote Bernie. Absolutely. Too bad you didn't work hard enough on that.
TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
Biden raised the minimum corporate tax from 0% to 15%, and skillfully did it with the votes of 2 senators who are now independents.
2020: PROFITS WERE NOT PRESERVED.
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SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE. YOU STOLE OUR FUTURE TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
I'm not sure we should be so pessimistic yet. They blocked a candidate but did nothing to kill it's popularity. As long as we don't succumb to Fascism within the next four years, there's still a massive base of voters that would vote for a socialist in the '28 primary, and the left democrats will have had 12 years since Bernie's first campaign to build up the infrastructure for it by that point.
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Of course the corporate democratic side of the house wouldn't want Bernie. He was a threat to the status quo and they couldn't have that. Shifting money back to the middle class from the ultra rich? But it's the ultra rich that keep bank rolling them. How could they possibly go against that? Instead they discredited an honest, good guy who actually espouses the values out of their good book.
I just wish they could get on message and get in lock step about a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. It's the only reason the right is successful at this point. Yep, their policies are garbage, but look at them rally around their trash fire and start dancing to the drums.
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This is the democracy we are told that needs to be saved by Re-Electing Biden.
There's nothing antidemocratic in people organizing to oppose the candidate they don't like. That's just regular democracy.
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Every gambler knows
That the secret to surviving
Is knowing what to throw away
Knowing what to keep
'Cause every hand's a winner
And every hand's a loser
And the best that you can hope for
Is to die in your sleep
This was never in doubt, it was said from the beginning. The fear is that someone who refers to themselves as a socialist cannot win in the rust belt swing states. Pro-labor positions in general don't do well in the midwest, it's a central area in the fight to dismantle unions.
Not that Hilary won them either though.
Bernie drew in crowds in the reddest of states. And without the DNC dog piling on Biden he was likely to win.
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What a bunch of BS
Its not unexpexted and doesn't matter. I'm stil voting and it will be for whoever is running against Trump.
Left: It sure is a huge problem that there’s such a bipartisan effort in Washington to be corporate trash
Lemmy: YEAH FUCK THE DEMOCRATS
Left: I think we should get involved, maybe we could do campaign finance reform or get rid of FPTP or strengthen the progressive wing of the Democrats, or idk, fuckin something, this is horrible
Lemmy: LET’S LET THE FASCIST WIN
Everything in all caps is what centrists see when they encounter anything not in all caps.
I must have missed your extensive explanation about how the Democrats are good, or we must not let the fascist win. Want to give me the cliffs notes version? Or just link me to it? I’d be happy to hear.
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Former congressman Harold Ford, former chair of the Democratic Leadership Council and banking executive, made a similar point on Fox. “I was an elite that supported you in 2020,” Ford said. “And said that we should do everything we possibly could do to advantage you against Bernie Sanders, because I thought Bernie Sanders’ politics were detrimental to the party and to the country.”
Oh my gosh, universal, tax-paid healthcare, higher education, and increased worker protections. So detrimental. Things most of Europe and even our neighbor to the North handles just fine.
And y'all think these people are still on the left in any way, shape, or form?
Because like most other politicians many of the "democrats" are slaves to their billionaire masters too