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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look up crisis theory, the rate of profit tends to fall in capitalist systems. Because each company is driven by competitive self-interest, it is incapable of acting for the good of the whole. You simply cannot devote resources to anything but trying to out-compete your rivals and in doing so the profit for everyone tends lower and lower until you have a crisis.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which is why you place hards limits on capitalism with a lotmof oversight like in the north European countries. It can be done right ifnits done right. That is, of you wa to do it right. If you simply want to say "fuck it, I want to get rich" then you go for the no limits no safe wors style that the US is practicing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

My base rule is that if it's needed or used by a majority of people, then the government should have it (probably exclusively too). Like hospitals, schools, infrastructure like roads and trains, electric grid, eventually the internet.

Now, shops and food isn't in there, probably because we shop wildly differentt I guess, but some base could be handled by rhe government (which is usually the case, like minimum rights to food etc).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1024: This new farming technology means one person can feed 1000 people! What are the other 999 people supposed to do? Are the lords just going to conscript all us serfs and have us fight for their entertainment?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

That’s pretty much what happened tho

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There were literally humans that were both Jewish and helping the NAZIs kill other Jewish people during the Holocaust.

There will be humans willing to serve A.I. and sell out humanity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

If the AI can run everything, then we become a post scarcity society. I'm hoping for Iain M Banks Culture series myself, but who knows. Or maybe the AI becomes so intelligent it just checks out like in the movie Her and we have to go back to doing it with non-AI tech.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

If we all run out of money they will harvest the marrow from our bones. They'll extract a fee, don't doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Corporations, especially publicly traded ones, can't think past their quarterly reports. The ones that are private are competing with the public ones and think following trends by companies that are "too big to fail" will work out for them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

You're describing the end goal of monopoly

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

That's the cool part, you won't. If everything crucial is automated, people can drive things forward for passion rather than for money. Of course, this would effectively collapse capitalism, which won't happen painlessly.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In theory, UBI.

In practice, it will likely lead to periodic job market crashes due to overapplying to the remaining jobs, and possibly even revolts.

If AI is really as good as its evangelists claim, and the technology ceiling will rise enough. IMHO, even the LLM technologies are getting exhausted, so it's not just a training data problem, of which these AI evangelists littered the internet with, so they will have a very hard time going forward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is zero chance any UBI model would keep the economy going in a mass layoff scenario UBI may keep people alive for a short while (few years) getting the basics needs but that's as far as it would go.

In practice, it will likely lead to periodic job market crashes due to overapplying to the remaining jobs, and possibly even revolts.

This is likely the mildest of outcomes

If AI is really as good as its evangelists claim, and the technology ceiling will rise enough. IMHO, even the LLM technologies are getting exhausted, so it's not just a training data problem, of which these AI evangelists littered the internet with, so they will have a very hard time going forward.

100% agreed. AI evangelists overhyped "AI" to get companies to commit more money than it's worth through FOMO. Exact same way CVS lost its panties to Elizabeth Holmes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What gives you such confidce it will fail if I may ask?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've seen it multiple times before, and nothing in this round looks any different

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Do what you like, it's just my opinion.

But every day goes by, another study or analysis comes out saying the exact same "AI is not what they promised"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

All the experts laughing at the answers it couldn't plagiarize from Reddit.

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