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The first pinned post can be found here:

https://lemmy.world/post/17530961

That's where all the engagement and comments can be found, and I'd encourage everyone to participate there.

The reason for THIS post is to direct everyone there.

I'm getting multiple reports that some people can't see it for some reason. Could be Federation, could be they blocked the user who posted it.

Here's hoping you all can see THIS one and move over to where everyone else is engaged.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Of course they have to identify the shooter with his First, middle, and last name, as is tradition… and it was a 20 yr old registered Republican? Wonder what the story on that will be?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

How long before right wing media is claiming the shooter was trans?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Early reports are that he was a registered Republican. But early reports are often wrong.

CNN is speaking to Evan Perez, Senior US Justice Department Correspondant, confirming the information first reported by the New York Post.

Also on Reuters:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-identifies-thomas-matthew-crooks-subject-involved-trump-rally-shooting-2024-07-14

NBC:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-shooter-identified-rcna161757

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Oh you silly goose. I said right wing media. Facts and truth don’t matter to them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

New York Post is the first to identify the shooter. Not linking it here because, well, New York Post... but it is being floated out there on non-social media.

Edit CNN is speaking to Evan Perez, Senior US Justice Department Correspondant, confirming the information first reported by the New York Post.

Also on Reuters:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-identifies-thomas-matthew-crooks-subject-involved-trump-rally-shooting-2024-07-14

NBC:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-shooter-identified-rcna161757

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That's it.

It's either a trump election win and civil war from him dismantling one too many of the elements of US government.

Or trump looses the election, incites a civil war, and the craziest actually do it.

Either way, as this even proves: Get. Your. Guns. Whilst you still can.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would Trump losing incite civil war? Who is going to take any weapons from anyone? Who is going to enforce the law? They aren't going to fight themselves. They want a civil war and they want the Dems to just make one mistake to cause it.

There is no way to say that there will be that many of them. There will be a few. But nothing on a scale of civil war. That's some dumb neck beard fantasy. If the Dems win it will be ok. Until the next 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Trump losing would throw the "stolen election" nonsense into overdrive. Hence the civil war.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, because that’s totally what happened last time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

It really was close last time.

You look at the fake electors scheme, the attempt to kidnap the governor of Michigan, and January 6th... those are all opening shots in a civil war.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I hear that. But who is going to enforce it? The cops? The army? I don't see that happening. They would attack themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It wouldn't be the cops or the army, it would be his Proud Boys aligned supporters, a la the attempt to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The proud boys are in jail. Their leaders are in shambles after January 6th.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

A few are, yes, not nearly enough of them.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I’m getting multiple reports that some people can’t see it for some reason. Could be Federation, could be they blocked the user who posted it.

checks username

It's the second option and for good reason.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Trump would probably be much safer in prison.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

Whelp... Biden was insistent on running, now the Monkey's Paw has answered. All the other plausible Dems who could have stepped in to replace Biden will be running for the hills, and being the Democratic nominee is gonna be the worst job in politics for the next four months. And at the end of the campaign he gets to be remembered by history as the loser in the worst landslide election since Reagan-Carter.

Also:

  • Sonia Sotomayor's decision not to retire during Biden's term is looking like yet another D own goal. Very real prospects for a 7-2 Supreme Court.

  • We're going to be seeing an orgy of foreign governments jockeying to cultivate relations with Trump. Official US foreign policy is going to be dead in the water, and NATO and G7 will be leaderless, until next year.

  • Trump is going to have an iron grip on the Republican party now, to an even greater extent than before. On various issues where other Republicans held positions contrary to Trump's, they're going to be brushed aside.

  • For the above two reasons, Ukraine is pretty well fucked.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Democrats aren't just jumping ship over this bullshit. The actual voters, the people, not the talking heads, are pretty entrenched in Not Trump. Votes aren't changing over this, and the Democrats know what's at stake. At the end of the day there's more blue than red and it was an L for Trump as soon as he said he was running.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I always used to wonder how the Weimar Republic fumbled the ball so hard. Now I know.

Also, in Christian eschatology, isn't it a big deal that the Antichrist suffers a near fatal head injury before his ultimate victory?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Sonia Sotomayor's decision not to retire during Biden's term is looking like yet another D own goal

She’s 70. She can easily make it 5 more years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

5 more years and then run for president after that.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

5 more years.

Ohh, ho ho. Yes. 5 more years when we will have our...next election.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 months ago

Fucking vote

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Please please please can we stop the conspiracy theories from blowing up in this thread? Can we not act like them?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Conspiracy theories aside, I'd like to see people mocking the injury with little red ear clips, just like these assholes mocked John Kerry with purple heart band-aids:

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Yeah lol. For me, I figured out it's because I blocked Ozma.

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