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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (23 children)

If you're going to do the thing with replacing Biden as the candidate, you couldn't get better than AOC, who will be 35 before November.

I personally think replacing Biden this late is a bad move even though I already think Biden sucks. But I grit my teeth and voted for the fucker just like I did with Clinton, because the alternative is literally insanity and fascism. I just don't realsitically seeing the party coalesce around anyone new at the last minute. Organizing Democrats is like herding cats, being a big tent party sucks noodles.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Wasn't trump impeached twice? What does this even mean concretely?
Not knocking the sentiment, just questioning the practicality

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it means as much as it did for the Trump impeachments. There is zero chance any, let alone enough, Republicans would vote to convict these conservative judges regardless of the evidence and validity of the charge(s).

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Put simply, an impeachment happens in the House of Representatives and is akin to an indictment by Grand Jury. If successful, the proceeding then moves to the Senate for trial, where the party is either convicted or acquitted. A conviction would mean removal from office and the possibility of facing criminal charges.

Trump was impeached twice, but he was not convicted either time.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Without getting too technical, and someone please correct anything that may be represented incorrectly: It's basically like a trial. The House is the prosecutor, and jury and the Senate is the judge. The plaintiff is the United States itself, and the defendant is the political figure (president, SC justice, etc)

The House gathers / presents evidence and tries them then renders a verdict (Impeachment)

The Senate is responsible for sentencing or acquitting. Without a 2/3 majority voting to remove them from office, the impeached is acquitted.

In both of Trump's, the House found him guilty of the charges (impeached) but the Republican controlled Senate acquitted him.

Hard to edit it in on mobile, but see @[email protected] 's clarifications below to my analogy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I see. I shall remain optimistic then--Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, I'm trying to be optimistic, but usually there's several steps before Articles of Impeachment are proposed.

The House still needs to vote on the articles, and that requires only a simple majority vote. So they would need at least a few Republicans to vote "yea" for it to go anywhere. What I'm unclear on is if the Speaker of the House can prevent it from getting a vote (researching this on mobile is harder than I thought lol).

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah. Probably won't go anywhere with a traitorous house majority but it's worth it to try and get them on the record.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Just today I read that Clarence Thomas accepted a yacht trip to Russia. There's a huge air of corruption around him and I've heard people are calling for him to step down.

https://lemmy.world/post/17424787

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago (3 children)

AOC from NYC is the MVP in DC.

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[–] [email protected] 408 points 3 months ago (18 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Only issue is she’s a divisive figure so center shitters might be driven to vote for trump. I think she’s awesome and would love if she was the first woman pres

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 months ago (3 children)

A huge part of the poor youth vote attendance is due to them not feeling represented by geriatric nominees. If she were to run she would get very strong youth and minority support in addition to all the left voters.

TBH it would be a dream come true for her to run and win this year and I'm not even American.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago

She's pretty badass.

[–] [email protected] 269 points 3 months ago (38 children)

I was gonna say she's too young, but apparently she'd turn 35 about a month before the election. A president who's barely old enough... What a nice change of pace that would be.

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