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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

A guy named Von Papen once tried doing it the other way. Didn't turn out well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Allying with (so-called) "centrists" have never worked out well for the left.

Never.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For the sake of completeness: Allying with authoritarian socialists has never worked out well for anarchists either

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago

has never worked out well for anarchists either

You wanna use the big bad "A" word underneath a swollen liberal hive-mind like this one?

Careful... you might cause a panicked stampede.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If rightoids don't unambiguously disown actual white supremacists and fascists, this will happen here too.

The American right has an easier time disowning the insane weirdos then the "progressive" movement does, but there are still a lot of ordinary boring conservatives who are convinced that actual white supremacists are just conservatives who are getting smeared by the boy who cried nazi. That could easily be the undoing of the right. The far left is far more agreeable to the masses then the far right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

If rightoids don’t unambiguously disown actual white supremacists and fascists, this will happen here too.

How would they accomplish this? The maintenance of white supremacism is literally the reason right-wing politics in the US exists - you're asking them to stop being reactionaries and become... what? Socialists? Anarchists?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For modern, neoliberal western euro nations I think he's fairly centrist in today's climate relatively speaking.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He is not far right, but he is not centrist.

Pushed retirement age two years using bogus numbers.
Violent police free to mutilate peaceful protesters without consequences.
Dismantling of public institutions.
Reducing access to cheap medicine.
Privatization of public universities.
Etc.

He cannibalized right wing voters from UMP back in the day for a very good reason.

His program and his decisions are fairly anchored in typical right wing bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Privatization of public universities

HE DID WHAT?!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He is not centrist but people voting for him are

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If you look at Macron's program, his ideas, his realisations and think 'hmm, yes, I shall vote for him.', you're not a centrist, you're right wing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Right wing people tend to be rather dumb, yes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Central Unions and big political organizations have cancelled the common meeting planned for this week, because "the far-right didn't pass" This the 3rd time they almost did, I don't know how many warning shot they need.

I'm sick of the blindness of the left management. We seriously need more people in grass roots organization.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Let's see if it lasts enough to form a working government. Here's to hoping this holds against history!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

yeah, this was a good surprise, but electoralism has never stopped fascism. these same people who made a point to vote left better be organizing right now. they will be back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Off-Topic Fun Fact. The exit number at the top of the board is placed on the side of the board in which you would be exiting the highway. So if the Exit 12 is on the top left of the board, and ramp is on the left lane of the highway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The image is using United States highway signs, so that one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay, then why is the exit on right right and the sign on the left?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If you want to get pedantic, it's not an exit sign, it's a TIXƎ sign with a TꟻƎ⅃ sign above it. I don't know what country uses TIXƎ signs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not being pedantic, they said they should be on the same side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They're not wrong though, that just can't be exit 12. It's a right hand turn and the sign clearly states that exit 12 is on the left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Oh you're right. I think it is true, to be sure I was looking at the signs on the highway today and they were consistent with this rule.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Look like US signs to me

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