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Man who calls women "females" hopes to one day be allowed within 500 meters of one (chaser.com.au)

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[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago (10 children)

I don't understand why "gal" isn't used more. It's "woman"s single-syllable sister and also isn't infantilizing like using "girl" can be.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I say females and am one. Title has me wondering if it's from hearing it so frequently.

[–] LilaOrchidee@slrpnk.net 18 points 11 months ago

unless it's used as an adjective it definitely sounds like an incel or a ferenghi is speaking

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[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait, where's the part where he calls a woman a *fat whore who can keep chasing Chad but she better not come crying to him when she turns 30 and hits the wall?

*about 75% of this is just a reworded comment I saw today on an article about dating in my city.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Clinical nomenclature has a place but social interactions aint it

[+] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world -27 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I will never understand the drama over the word "female".

I set up a doctor's appointment the other day, and I was asked if I had a doctor preference. I responded and said "I'd prefer a female doctor." According to the internet, apparently I should have asked for a "woman doctor".

Reversing the gender, I'd be asking for either a "male doctor" or a "man doctor". I will literally never use the phrase "I'd prefer a man doctor, please." Because it has weird connotations, and doesn't even roll off the tongue as well.

So because I believe in male/female equality, I am necessarily required to treat them the same, with similar varieties of words.

So what's the problem? Give me a reason why I should use the less technical versions of words that invoke social-gender-stereotypes when I want to avoid all of that entirely.

[–] Sybilvane@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There's a difference between using it as an adjective and a noun.

Requesting "a female doctor" is not as bad as requesting "a female."

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My understanding is that its less about the word itself and more about the usage in contrast to how the same person refers to men. Males will be men, dudes, bros, etc. but they'll only refer to women as females. Usually with a thinly veiled distain. "All these dudes just hanging out but the FEMALES are fighting." or some shit.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I'm in my 30s and I've never met a single person in my entire life who refers to women as "the females". I work in a highly male-dominated field full of country boys, for reference.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 8 points 11 months ago

I've not personally met someone like that either, but I AM terminally online and see it a lot. It's usually Andrew Tate enjoyer types.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You've been told (probably at length) what women in general prefer to be called. It's probably even been explained to you. Your feigning ignorance about why is just saying that you don't find those answers satisfactory.

You're free to call women "females" and you can justify it however you want, just like I'm free to allow absolutely zero people who refer to me as "female" (outside of very limited clinical circumstances) to touch my tits.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I assume there are also other criteria as well?

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[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Would you say 'women doctor' in this scenario?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Weird of you to continue the argument at this point really

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It was a genuine question. I have no argument here. I don't know the best term in this situation.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That's what we were instructed to use to refer to a subset of our platoon-mates while working, in those rare cases where it made a difference. One of my DS, an MP from Halifax, would absolutely tear a strip off you if she heard you say 'girl' or 'woman', in barely comprehensible English out from under that scary red Beret, and you knew the woe was coming.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 27 points 11 months ago

As a recovered Marine, I know too well how sexist the military is especially under the guise of "nomenclature."

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43cBDsncp9Q

[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ok I will totally admit that, especially when during DEI discussions or other similar meetings, when my brain is about to say "woman" I can freak out and over-correct and I have absolutely said "females".

I used to say "boys and girls", even my female wife says "girls" is fine, but 1 time in 2009 I got yelled at for using "girls" and I have never recovered.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why can't you say 'woman' when refering to a woman?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes it feels awkward. I'm getting used to it but for some reason it's unnatural. My women friends in real life also find it weird to say women, they also say females.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you also have 'man friends' in real life? Or do you say 'male friends'?

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 19 points 11 months ago

Saying something that may be perceived as offensive and then later realizing you probably should have said it differently is totally different from saying the same thing unabashedly with zero self-awareness

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 97 points 11 months ago (2 children)

“It is unfair how I am treated,” he said, “the moment I see a female and say ‘hello there female’ they always leave after saying something. I don’t know what they said because I wasn’t listening but they are being very rude.”

“I don’t understand what it is that makes women seem uncomfortable around me... likely they are just intimidated to be in the presence of a real alpha man like me. I don’t blame them for that.”

[–] soloner@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know you're joking but that last paragraph made me throw up in my mouth a little bit

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[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Those guys are the rapiest ones. It's disingenuous to act like the types of men who call women 'females' aren't the same guys who neg, space invade and spike drinks.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's fairly common where I live, of both genders.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Do people commonly say "men and females" where you live?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 11 months ago

Men/males.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

a real alpha man like me

ICING ON TOP.

[–] flerp@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hahahuaha jokes on them, they don't know I have a cat so I am sharing a chair with a female at this exact moment in time!

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I love the scent of a female.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

As a humanoid male, i too love the scent of a homo sapien female.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I find there's nothing better than harvesting the scent of a female in a tank, with flower petals of course, and then scrapings it off thier skin. Someday I hope to use it in all five chords of a fragrance.

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