I dislike everything that isn't Voyager because not enough Neelix. Also, I'm going to look over the comic sans because of the far greater sin of using Papyrus.
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Is Phlox perhaps Neelix enough?
I: Am just not interested in
Star Trek:
- Discovery
- SNW
Unspecified (specify): They're prequels.
I already imagined the backstories for the shows I've seen... are you not supposed to? A prequel isn't going to ever line up to how I imagined the backstory (how could it, everyone has a different imagination) so there's always going to be dissonance with a prequel. Not that I hate these shows, just not interested in them.
Make Star Trek Legacy and move the story forward pls, thx.
In my mind Strange New Worlds is in a parallel universe. Not the mirror universe, or the Kelvin universe, but another another universe.
But I want to go back to DS9 darn it. I want to know how that all ends.
Don’t you also imagine future developments of the stories you enjoy? I’m already imagining what Starfleet Academy is going to give us, doesn’t matter if it’s a prequel or not. I just have to set my imagined version aside when the actual show airs.
SNW is so good I'd sooner toss TOS if forced to choose (which I'm not). The musical episode is vastly better than Turnabout: Intruder.
Sorry, I've already imagined the backstory of Discovery Season 3-5. Those centuries are now off-limits.
Yeah well Discovery totally messes with the established timeline. They have a ship that's more advanced than anything we've ever seen on screen before and yet, it's pre TNG, eh?
It's not that I don't like the writing, or the characters, but the least (literally the very least) they could do is have a bit of respect for the source material.
“Excessive lens flare”
Star Wars: The Force Awakens:
What’s wrong with Neelix?
Dislike DIS because Michael, not Gene’s vision
Wicked jealous of Pike’s hair
I dislile TNG because Q. I will be arguing with dissenters in the comments
Most Q episodes are hit or miss and almost all of TNG season 1 is bad but I still think episode 1 with Q putting Picard on trial is a perfect introduction to TNG.
Tangent, but I had a generally positive opinion of John de Lancie based on his work in Trek and Days of Our Lives (I am so old) and various interviews I'd seen over the years until I saw Jenny Nicholson's video about the last Bronycon. De Lancie had some involvement in a film about the Brony phenomenon and she was in a green room with him a few times. Apparently he was pretty rude and showed contempt for his fans. 🙁
Disclaimer: Not a Brony myself but Jenny Nicholson can make anything interesting.
De Lancie invited the local bronies in my area to attend an opera he was narrating. I attended and he came and hung out with the bronies afterwards, saying he wanted to thank us for sharing our thing with him by sharing his thing with us. He stayed late after, signing autographs and chatting with people, for so long that I think he may actually have missed his flight. He was a super sweetheart. Maybe he needs to vent about the nasty fans behind closed doors sometimes, but I can't begrudge anyone that. I recognize that it's only one data point, but he made the effort to do something nice for us on his own initiative, was incredibly generous with his time, and was kind to me, personally. I will always appreciate that.
EDIT: Also, it was a free event so it's not like he was trying to sell tickets or anything, and there were less than a dozen of us so I doubt it was a self-serving PR move.
Glad you had a good experience. I guess people are never as simple as the boxes we try to cram them into, and fandoms can be both a blessing and a curse.
I disagree - you dislike TNG for completely different reasons.
Shit. You got me.
Android slaves in Picard conflicts with TNG canon.
Trapped tardigrades for propulsion in Disco conflicts with Voyager canon.
Those are my complaints.
Android slaves in Picard conflicts with TNG canon.
Yeah I hear ya on that. When you think about it, Picard S1 is the exact opposite of Measure of a Man. In Measure of a Man they start by thinking it's ok to disassemble Data against his will because he's a machine. But then there's a debate about whether he's sentient. It ends with Picard saying that since debatable that he's sentient there is no debate about whether or not to disassemble data because if they do that if there's even a possibility Data is sentient, they risk being horrible racist monsters and eventually creating a slave race.
Picard S1 starts with the Federation already creating a slave race AND disassembling the androids. And it's not that they're assuming they're just machines, they are overtly racist against the androids. So much so when the androids malfunction they don't even consider the possibility that it's a malfunction (run a level 5 diagnostic or whatever), they go straight to hating androids.
I get they were trying to do an anti-racist message (which it's Star Trek, that's what they should do) but by doing Measure of a Man backwards they didn't accomplish anything. Because it's later revealed the androids were indeed just malfunctioning machines. So the Federation was being racist against malfunctioning machines? What is anyone supposed to learn from this message? If your computer doesn't work right, don't be racist against computers... run a virus scan instead.
TNG: Android is a machine -> maybe he's sentient? -> disassembly might be racist? -> disassembly: NOPE!
Picard S1: Android are people -> people that the Federation is racist against -> no wait, they're actually malfunctioning machines -> ???
By doing it backwards they watered down the anti-racist message so much it's non-existent.
Yes agreed 10000%. S1 Picard was so confusing to me because of what you said. Did nobody in the writers room watch that episode of TNG?? There’s a few more too!!
“The Most Toys” asserts Data’s humanity over and over again. That episode with the Exocomps talks about tech sentience thru evolution and the effect on self preservation. That other episode about terraforming and finding the inorganic life forms. So many to choose from!
First 30 seconds of Picard: “These damn dirty robot slaves are so whiny and cranky!”
Me: 🤦
Android slaves in Picard conflicts with TNG canon.
I blame Voyager.
Hm, not sure what you mean.
Are there android slaves in voyager?
Not quite, but in "Author, Author" a bunch of repurposed EMH Mark 1 are seen mining dilithium back home while obviously not being very happy about it.
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