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Your everyday Linux maintenance experience (files.catbox.moe)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Community will crucify me for this, but Linux DE maintenance is the bane of my existence.

Shit "just works" until it inevitably doesn't, and it takes Linus himself to figure out how to unfuck it due to the absolutely insane level of version churn packages & distros see over the years, making most resources short of "just reinstall it" a fools errand.

Servers? Beautiful. Desktop environments? I literally can't anymore... Having something go to shit when I REALLY need to get something done has forced me to always have Windows on hand.

Which has turned into "Windows primary" and "Linux DE secondary " over the years. I hate Windows, I yearn for my plasma desktop, but it's almost always more reliably stable without maintenance for longer in my experience.

/rant

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

in my case it's the exact reverse, simples things need complex paths to be done on Windows

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

This sounds about right. Currently everything on mine works. But it's like... For how long?

Edit. Actually almost everything lmao. YouTube drains crazy battery ATM. Probably hardware acceleration not working.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This is after the third reboot, and automatic updates were off and I never accepted an update. All I wanted to do was sideload obtanium into the Facebook spy mask and I thought it would be easier than figuring out why it wouldn't show up in adb on Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s funny, but as an adult now… I’m more concerned my ADHD is like this. It’s so annoying. I don’t even mean to do it. I set out to clean my desktop computer files and the next thing I know I’m painting the garage. Oh and ESPECIALLY if something is important. My mind creates these distractions or ‘focuses’ which allow me to fully set my mind on something, as long as it’s to avoid doing something else… 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

Yeah last week I found myself thinking "blazeknave what the fuck are you doing?? You're prepping online research, for your meeting in five minutes. How did you end up sorting the linen closet? Fuck you man! "

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Classic! Love this clip!!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do you know how I can find it on the Web? I wanted to find it the other day but I didn't know what terms to use... I was like "clip where nothing works"????

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

It’s from ‘Malcolm in the Middle’

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I mean it's right here, just link to it?

But yeah if you search "hal fixing a light bulb".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm on Debian and that kind of stuff basically doesn't happen. For the first couple weeks I broke stuff every once in a while because I didn't know how Linux worked, but it's basically been smooth sailing on all my computers for about six months.

Contrast with the Windows 10 on the same laptop which just the other day decided it doesn't want to play anymore. I guess I ran an update the last time I touched it (like a month ago) and now it won't boot. Debian boots perfectly. Even in safe mode, I can't boot into Windows and Automatic Startup repair refuses to work even using both the recovery USB and installation media. Probably going to have to reinstall Windows from scratch.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On that note, maybe just remove windows? Thats what I did. Some folks report that „really necessary apps“ would also run on a vm.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I still need that Windows partition for two reasons:

(1). I need Windows because my audio interface uses a proprietary driver only available on Windows. It simply does not perform as quickly on Linux. It's for real-time audio recording and production, so I need absolutely every clock cycle I can possibly spare. For that reason, a VM is out of the question for this particular application. On Linux with JACK, it uses JACK's default USB audio driver, which is really good but not as fast as the custom driver ostensibly using FocusRite's hidden features. It's not Linux's fault, it's FocusRite's for not supporting Linux and mine for "backing the wrong horse" about ten years ago when I bought it. To my knowledge, Linux pro audio was simply nowhere near as developed as it is now. It is only this exact piece of hardware, which I currently cannot afford to replace, that requires me to keep any copies of Windows alive. Other than for similar reasons where users are trapped, Windows sucks as an audio production operating system, whereas Linux with JACK is great.

(2). I need the Windows partition as it is because there is some old but important work there that I need to finish. I wasn't very organized about where I saved my work, i.e. things are all over the place. Eventually, I have to spend several hours moving the project files and effects off the drive. Since these projects were recorded on Windows, I will probably have to move all my Windows-exclusive effects to Linux. Yabridge actually does an excellent job for this, but it's not painless.

I'm currently in grad school for engineering, so I won't have time to bring over my project files until at least the summer. But even then, all the compatibility layers are starting to add up on Linux. The projects I want to work on were nearly maxing out the CPU and RAM on Windows. Really, I need a hardware upgrade, but I can't afford that for a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

There’s rot

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's either this or everything works for years literally without a single problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I remember installing Uhuntu back in 2012 as middle schooler, and never encountering any error at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I once deployed a small service in 2016. It was a sort of configurable API, that other companies could post information to. Every company’s information came in a different json structure, but I built the thing to be able to accept a new structure, with new configuration data (no new coding needed for new formats).

Then in 2019, I was interviewing for a job and they asked me to talk about something I’d built that was reliable and I was able to report that this little service, running in docker compose, had been up continually for the last two years with zero errors.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

My Fedora Kinoite box is fucking effortless, it updates in the background just needs a reboot from time to time. I have scripted updating the containers that host my home services, I run the script from time to time and it pulls a new container image and recreates the container, updates the systemd services to match the new container ids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I love Kinoite so much!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is accurate. Getting error codes in coding is like buy one get an additional 100 free

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Type yay hit enter.. Sometimes reboot, sometimes just suspend... Its all pretty wild

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I run Arch by the way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

So damn true lol.

Trying to create an insecure Netflix desktop entry that runs excluded from the VPN (because netflix sucks) in a profile that allows DRM.

But the result, worth it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

That's me running Debian. Or rather...

FrankenDebian.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Honestly my Windows 10 experience wasn't much different.

Atleast I can actually fix most of the issues that pop up on Linux

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I was struggling to get an OS installed on my cousin's dell at one point. This machine came with that Intel Optane...shit with a spinning rust hard drive, I was replacing it with a straight-up NVMe SSD. Windows would get well into the install process, and then bomb out with an error that was something like 0x123a039f34798cd76eb1 UNDEFINED ERROR. This of course was in the Windows installer, which isn't a functioning desktop environment, so I had to type that manually into my laptop to google it, and got very few results.

I tried Linux Mint, and it apparently had the same problem. It said something like "BIOS Storage config error. Unable to mount file system. It may be that such and such setting is incorrect in the BIOS. See this page for further details." The last sentence was a hyperlink to a wiki that discussed the problem, which opened in Firefox because this installer runs in a live environment, AND IT HAD A QR CODE LINK IN THE ERROR MESSAGE to the same page so you could easily copy the link to an external device. Y'all that was a white glove concierge deep tissue massage of an error message.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

…and that was the last time I tried to install windows, or so I imagine the end. :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, I installed Windows on the machine I built for her to replace that one. THAT was the last time I've installed Windows on anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Got it. My wife is about ready to jump ship after seeing me running linux on my daily for half a year with heavy tasks.

She‘s jealous of the customization and versatility of linux.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Last time I tried Windows (with Windows 10), I actually struggled properly installing my graphics drivers. IDK what the issue even was, but after trying unsuccessfully for a while I just wiped the Windows partition and stuck with Linux.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All other times, reinstall OS and keep /home/.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I will pretend that i haven't seen that "other" there

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yay

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

-Syu

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Running yay by itself automatically does that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I learned another thing today lol been using yay on several devices and I've always used flags exactly as I would with pacman. Just another reason I'm sold that yay rocks!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

This is why I run Debian. 😀

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This can for sure be me when setting stuff up. I'm currently playing around with self-hosting some stuff on my local network, you wouldn't believe the amount of tabs I have open on my desktop, plus on my phone, plus on the laptop I'm using as a server.

This definitely isn't me on a day to day basis though. For the most part, unless I'm actively tinkering, Linux just works.

On the headache-inducing side of things though, I'm currently trying to figure out why I can't run Wordpress over Docker on my laptop. It quickly uses up all resources and even then spits out a "error connecting to database" message when I try to access it.

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