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Your everyday Linux maintenance experience (files.catbox.moe)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t use Linux too much, but this matches my experience… I have a raspberry pi 3, running a home automation server.

One day I go to upgrade a plugin for it. It tells me I need to upgrade the home automation server first, so I go do that. It fails because my Node.js install needs to be upgraded too, so I do that. Then, I try to upgrade the home automation server again, but that now fails with a strange error. Stack trace says something about a missing C++ lib in my Node.js install, so I look it up. I try to install the missing library, but it gives more errors. I do more searching and find loads of other people with this issue, my raspbian version can’t support this C++ library version without first being upgraded. Damn, well, it’s midnight and I have work in the morning, I don’t have time for that. I try to get my home automation server up so I can go to bed, but it fails due to problems with the Node.js install. Can’t go to bed without this server running or my smart home accessories don’t work. I try to downgrade to the previous Node.js version. This fails with another error. Couldn’t upgrade, now I can’t downgrade, I’m stuck. I read a thread on GitHub… other people are reinstalling the OS from scratch and starting over. Damn… I start trying to backup my config files so I can do this too. One more check of another post on GitHub and I find some guy shares a command to downgrade Node.js without a fresh OS install. Perfect! I run this, restart my home automation server, and go to bed. Maybe I’ll try to figure out this problem another day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

See, this is why BTRFS is a good idea.

I borked one of my installs today by accident. I'm not even sure what happened... I upgraded the kernel, then weird things started happening, then X just froze, I restarted, runit would't even go to phase 3 of the boot process, X couldn't load, just gave a bunch of errors. Oh well, BTRFS to the rescue 😊. This is where things get interesting 😂.

I was on the phone with my wife while I was trying to bring back a snapshot of the volume... have no idea what I did, but I managed to wipe the root subvolume 😂. Not like just empty, but completely gone 🤣. OK 😬. Let's see if the snapshots are still there. Yep, still there. OK, recreated the subvolume and tried to load a snapshot of it, this time, wuthout talking on my phone 😂. Worked like a charm 😊. Restart, sure enough, it loads grub and the OS, everything's back to normal 😊.

Start using filesystems that can make snapshots, like BTRFS or ZFS. Sure, they have a bit of a learning curve, but trust me, it's worth it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

"daily" maintenance for linux??? i think we call that "eier schaukeln" in germany.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I reference this video every time I go to fix something simple on the farm. Gotta fix the tools I use to fix the tools.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Been running Fedora since June of last year, and it's the most "boring" distro I've ever used. It's been rock solid and I haven't experienced a single issue. None! I have an all-AMD build. The funny thing is that I recently installed Ubuntu 23.10 on a different PC, and I managed to break it after a couple of hours 😂

Been using Linux on and off since 2008 (ish).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Same here. I switched to Fedora last year and it's been so easy...too easy 🤔

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I pulled out of the Redhat world around 2002 and only recently got back into it via Nobara. I have to agree, Fedora is boringly stable and still pretty cutting edge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is where the Breaking Bad episode came from?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

From the prequel with his first wife. Really informs the character's backstory.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Must be doing something wrong if this is the everyday experience (especially for production). And there's the ones wanting to experiment, which is a different thing. I guess that's why this is a meme.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

For me this video is the norm because i frequently experiment. There rarely is a problem wich doesn't require me fixing 3 different problems

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

LTS and no tinkering are for production. And yes, they will be stable AF.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

You got the joke.

I'm proud of you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is why I use Arch. I enjoy the tinkering. One day Arch won't be enough and I will have to install Gentoo. You will probably never hear from me ever again after that. Mostly because I will be too busy compiling firefox again after a minor update.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Take a look at nixos. All the tinkering you could dream of with all the stability you could ever want

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Firefox-bin: hello there 😎

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Updating system once a month: who said that?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just turn on the Ubuntu computer, play games, Clic the occasional button to install updates and then keep doing my stuff. No maintenance stuff needed unless I mess something up on purpose with tinkering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

average Ubuntu enjoyer. Though I've gotten bored so I updated it to 23.10.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

NixOS was like this for me in the first 1 or 2 weeks, after that it's been a breeze and very easy to keep my desktop and laptop configurations synced.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

I literally didn't even boot Windows for a month and then when I did, I got BSOD on boot, and it gave me some bullshit about not being able to find a device. How's that for maintenance? I can't say I miss it.

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