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Stop wearing Vision Pro goggles while driving your Tesla: U.S. transportation officials, Calif. police::Videos, many of them stunts or jokes, of people wearing Apple’s new virtual reality headset while driving Teslas in Autopilot mode prompted officials to issue warnings.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So there was a guy in the "viral video" thread yesterday fighting tooth and nail for how harmful the video is even if it's staged, mainly on the premise thats bunch of people would copy and recreate it. They were getting downvoted to oblivion.

Here we are a day later.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (14 children)

They were getting downvoted to oblivion.

Downvotes are a fucking curse. They were never meant for disagreement. They've just turned into low-effort echo-chamber creators.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

it's basically just hololens right?
also visionos is not the first "spatial os", windows 10 was the first. (ever notice how stuff has circular glow effect around it? it's supposed to show up around the pointer while using the os in vr/ar)
Microsoft quickly abandoned the idea tho as well as basically the whole uwp platform (which was supposed to bring the same apps on pc, windows mobile, xbox and hololens)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Hololens is slightly more advanced. At least the last I saw it uses waveguides etc. to overlay the content over a transparent panel. Much like Google glasses, but way, way more advanced (and therefore justifiably expensive - last I saw, again, it was something like $15000). AVP is no different to a $300 Quest (plus internal cameras for iris and expression tracking and obnoxiously bad FOV) - it's 10x Apple tax.

Hololens is still alive and kicking btw, but it's exclusively enterprise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

HoloLens 2 was supposed to cost 3500$

also iirc there were cheaper hololens-compatible headsets made by third parties at the time (not anymore) marketed towards consumers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's camera pass-through, so while it is the same idea as hololens (overlaying windows on reality). The hololens would actually be a safer thing to wear while driving, given it fully transparent. There are not screens blocking your vision with camera feeds overlayed on top.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Very important distinction. When the apple vr battery dies, or the software fails, you're suddenly blind.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

I expect nothing less from Tesla drivers

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dante Lentini, 21, who posted a video of himself behind the wheel of a moving Tesla while wearing a Vision Pro headset, said in an interview, “It was all just for content.”

Well, maybe when they revoke their licence they can tell them "it was all just for other people's safety".

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The new goggles have a feature that merges digital apps and one’s surroundings into one immersive space

Isn't this just AR? We've had that for years. Or is it somehow different from existing AR?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

AR just means augmented reality, it says nothing of how it should be implemented

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

AR of that visual quality has required the user to be stationary and tied to a large computer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I watched some reviews about it. Yes, it's basically like having an iPad screen taped to your eyes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty good AR from what I hear but still AR.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

pretty good VR*: all of the user's field of vision is digitally (re-)created.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If you load up an AR app on your phone, it will often overlap the augmentation over the camera image. So I think reprojecting the outside world using cameras and augmenting that in VR is also a form of AR. Maybe we need a new name for this specifically, though? I don't know. But maybe AVR or VAR?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

We don't need another name because it's a very common - almost expected - feature in VR headsets. My headset has monochromatic cameras for passthrough, but it's still a VR headset.

Also, often the whole idea is that this passthrough layer can be toggled at anytime or even gradually mixed with the computer-generated reality, so creating another name will just increase confusion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure about your definition of AR, but if the camera is showing the real world plus digital content then it's augmented reality.

Here is some definition:

In virtual reality (VR), the users' perception of reality is completely based on virtual information. In augmented reality (AR) the user is provided with additional computer- generated information within the data collected from real life that enhances their perception of reality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

showing the real world plus digital content then it’s augmented reality

But it isn't. AR means direct optical contact with the real world augmented with a digital / computer-generated layer. What Apple's VR does is recreate the real pov digitally using cameras, so it's VR.

Apple's tech builds a digital world and adds a "reality" layer on top - meaning the user only sees displays. AR's like Google Glass do the opposite, adding a digital layer on top of the real thing.

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Ah, you seem to have made a rookie mistake, poor people are using AR, apple users are using spatial computing

[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

It is ~slightly~ different, but in a way that's worse.

AR uses a transparent overlay over reality perceived through a translucent surface, or at most a small subset of your vision is replaced. Think sunglasses with a screen you can see through, or a small corner of your vision is blocked by a tiny screen.

In Apple's "spatial computing" cameras recreate and alter reality, nothing you see is with your own eyes because no part of the display is transparent.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Exactly, it's VR with passthrough.

I have to laugh at "spatial computing" though.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And VR with passthrough has been a thing at least in pro grade VR for like a decade.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Ima call it vr with passthrough from now on

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

AFAIK there is no strict definition for AR how current reality has to be implemented, and both transparent and reprojected have their advantages and disadvantages. For example it's much harder to "pin" augmentation on transparent AR, on the other hand latency and FOV are big issues for reprojected AR.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You ever seen the myth busters episode where they try to drive a car through cameras and computer monitors?

It didn’t go well

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit I don't want to be a poor people I need to get something with spatial computing!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

That's the point where you sell your fridge and cut on baby diapers for your kids

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

How can people be so stupid.. At least, a VR headset is easy spottable by police and those bastards can be removed from the streets.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

I thought that was Xander from Buffy at first.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (3 children)

And Jesus wept for there were no more worlds to conquer

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

World's within worlds!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Stop saying stop saying Jesus wept

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if your downvoters know that this was a line from the episode

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Probably not

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago

First we had the Glassholes, now there's Prolapses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Videos being shared across social media this week depict an almost dystopian, futuristic scene: drivers of Teslas in Autopilot mode while wearing Apple Vision Pro headsets, seemingly unaware of the road in front of them.

The new goggles have a feature that merges digital apps and one’s surroundings into one immersive space, and videos of people wearing them in strange settings have started to crop up across the internet since they were released on Feb. 2.

Dante Lentini, 21, who posted a video of himself behind the wheel of a moving Tesla while wearing a Vision Pro headset, said in an interview, “It was all just for content.”

Across social media, videos and images have circulated not just of people driving while wearing the Vision Pro headset, but also while dining at restaurants and working out at the gym.

Eric Decker, a YouTube and TikTok creator who goes by the name Airrack, posted a video poking fun at an “average day for an Apple Vision Pro owner,” showing him wearing the headset while lifting weights at the gym, getting his hair cut, going through airport security, walking down a street and even showering.

Apple has billed Vision Pro as a “spatial computing” device that allows users to watch videos, send emails and surf the internet in a immersive virtual reality.


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