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Microsoft moves to resolve privacy concerns over its Recall feature (www.engadget.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

By apologizing and retiring the entire feature?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

Too late. I deleted windows from every pc in my house today. Even my computer challenged wife is using linux now.

The problem is Microsoft continues to show their cards and where they are taking things. Thanks but no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

But they told us not to be concerned.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I can’t imagine this feature is enabled on Windows 11 Enterprise, right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not with this announcement, but it was.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Damn. 😣 Thanks for answering the question.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Can we just stop calling it a feature? Nobody asked for this to be a core part of the OS except MS tech support.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Making it opt-in is a much better way to offer this ridiculous "feature". But I wager there will be future shenanigans. MS is very sneaky and passive-aggressive about pushing sketchy unwanted shit on its customers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Even if the controls were big and obvious, I wouldn't trust them. Microsoft's knowingly using dark patterns. It'll eventually justify using it to spy on those who didn't quite consent.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"whoops, a bug turned it on for everyone. But it's okay, just manually opt-out again, haha. sorry. our bad"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yep, it’ll be opt in until they can turn it on without people noticing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

So the next update then?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Time to recall “Recall”. And fix Windows 11 and repackage as W12 while they’re at it.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

This solves only the most recent of privacy concerns that were only discovered with it recently. The primary concern is the core 'feature' itself: Windows recording everything you do and look at.

People work with your personal data on a regular basis, you better hope not a single one of them have this 'feature' enabled.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

It‘s like how the EU Commission is promising to keep connections secure while outlawing encryption. Utterly ridiculous.

[+] [email protected] -24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you don't turn it on it doesn't record anything.

People work with your personal data on a regular basis, you better hope not a single one of them have this 'feature' enabled.

Those sorts of businesses have policies on their computers, should be possible to disable it company-wide. If they're not doing that then they have bigger problems than just Recall.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Incorrect. If you dig through the settings and turn it off, then it doesn't record anything, but it's enabled by default on PCs that have an NPU.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Did you read the article this thread is about? The sub-headline is:

The tool will be opt-in, so Copilot+ PCs won’t screenshot your activity without permission.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is how they spin it now, but I saw the setup process for windows 11 on copilot+ laptops and it was opt-out originally. I'd imagine it's going to be one of those things where they ask you to enable it every couple of days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Making Edge my default browser is opt-in too, but that doesn't stop them from bugging me about it regularly or switching it any time they think they can.

I'm loving Linux Mint since I switched. It's nice to have an operating system that isn't trying to subvert my choices every day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Edge is opt-out though. It's your default from the beginning until you change it by installing a different browser.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Good point. I always install Firefox immediately and change it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So were many other things in the past.

I hate that people keep saying this shit.

'But the article said..' yes, the face eating leopards said there were not going to eat your face today.

See you next week.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The person I was responding to didn't say "I think they'll eventually make it opt-out again, at some point in the future, in my opinion." He gave a factual description of the current state of the feature. An incorrect one.

If you want to hate on face-eating leopards at least be accurate when describing them. Otherwise you become the boy that cried face-eating leopard.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

They ate so many faces as of today, what are you talking about? Microsoft has a long history of doing this, I can't believe you can in any way defend them.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s not companies that are the problem. It’s your friends, the type that always clicks on accept all and allow. Do you have any idea how many spam calls I get because someone allowed some proprietary app access to their contacts? And I have at least five friends who would enable recall without giving it a second thought.