Just tell him how much money he raises is proportional to the number of convictions he has. See if he bites.
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Quick, everyone give him some more money so he can fight the good fight. I'm sure he won't use it on blow and hookers or whatever.
Throw this dipshit in prison, please.
Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! He's such a pathetic cuck, fuck trump
One thing I am glad about is the press used to tippie toe around calling out lying with him and at least that seems to not so much be the case anymore.
He faces probation or up to four years in prison.
It's been reported that only 10% of felons are given jail time for similar convictions. You have to wonder if such remarks after his conviction, indicating he's learned absolutely nothing, may lead a judge towards the harsher punishment.
Also, let's take a moment to applaud Alvin L. Bragg.
Alvin L. Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney, risked his reputation by indicting Mr. Trump in a case that some prominent Democrats said wasn’t strong enough to have brought against a former president. Instead, Mr. Bragg cemented his place in history as the first prosecutor to convict a former president.
Even if he's just given probation, you can pretty much guarantee that he'll violate the terms within minutes.
The democrats are such goddamn pussies. They need to wake up and fight the fascism before their Inaction destroys this country.
I hate the rhetoric that we can't do anything because it would make Trump a martyr.
So it's either let him do whatever he wants or he's a martyr. I don't know why they see this as a lose lose situation. Hold the fucker accountable for his actions or he'll keep doing shitty things. It's their fault that it's gone on as long as it has.
If anything you would expect someone who was trying to get elected (when the crimes were committed) to be held to higher standards than most and to be dealt a harsher sentence.
Bragg should get a Presidential Medal of Freedom for his efforts.
I remember when we thought we were going to make statues of Robert Mueller on Capitol Hill because we once thought he was brave for taking on Trump.
Let's maybe wait to see if Trump actually gets sentenced with an appropriate punishment first before jumping the gun with Bragg.
When the time is right, I'd suggest we rename fort liberty after him.
New fort same as the old fort. I like the cut of your jib cully.
He won’t go to prison, but there’s a decent chance he’ll get home confinement for a few months.
Nah, I think it'll just be probation with generous terms. If they put him on house arrest, he'll challenge that saying it's political and it will prevent him from campaigning. It'll be easier to just slap him with a "you have to report your travel plans" and a few hours of community service. He deserves much more, but it'll cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars and take years if they actually try to punish him. I'll call it a win if we can always refer to him as "convicted felon DT" and let him walk. That will give more ammo for harsher sentences for the federal cases.
Is there any actual weight to this talk of campaign interference? I heard it somewhere else, too. It just seems absurd to me that that would be considered at all. Like if I did a few felonies but was like: your honor, I've got to water my plants. so you see - I can't do any prison time.
a few hours of community service
Please, please, please, just let me see video of Trump serving and cleaning tables in a soup kitchen in Harlem.
Plus he's likely to have a probation officer either way that he will regularly have to check in with. Hopefully he has to take drug tests too
And Johnson wants the Supreme Court to step in, overturn the conviction, and grant immunity to future prosecution.
He's a bigger dipshit than I took him for.
"States Rights"
Convicted of State crimes
"Not like that!"
I hadn't heard about Johnson calling for that, so I looked it up:
https://www.axios.com/2024/05/31/mike-johnson-trump-supreme-court
"I think that the Justices on the court – I know many of them personally – I think they are deeply concerned about that, as we are. So I think they'll set this straight," the Louisiana Republican added.
I think that quote really puts into perspective that the GOP is no longer the party of law. If a jury hands down a decision we don't like, we get our friends in high places to overturn it. I bet his kids never have to worry about traffic tickets, either, they all get magically "fixed" with the right phone call.
Trump's allies are already plotting revenge, with one prospective Trump attorney general candidate telling Axios' Zach Basu and Sophia Cai that GOP prosecutors should go after Democrats in response.
You know what? If Democrats break the law, then prosecutors should go after them! Somehow, though, I don't think this is what they have in mind.
GOP prosecutors should go after Democrats in response.
Can we just not have GOP and dem prosecutors, everything doesn't have to be one or the other for fucks sake.
I don't think that's possible. First of all, they're state crimes. Second of all, the jury has already rendered a verdict. The state courts are separate from federal for a reason, and setting aside a jury's verdict for literally no reason is just not possible for the Supreme Court. The jury is the decider of fact, the judge is the decider of law. This jury decided that trump did indeed commit this crime, so it's now established fact.
They would have to rule based on some error in the court process. Judge Merchan was very careful to give Trump a fair trial, so there are no grounds for appeals.
I hate that we have to re-explain the entire legal system because one man who obviously committed obvious crimes also constantly lies about how the legal system works and people eat it up.
Don't make the mistake of underestimating the opposition. He's not an idiot and knows exactly what he is doing.
Angling for a VP nod.
Why did they say “false statement” when “lie” is much more efficient?
Best guess? Just avoiding being sued. Something being a false statement is a matter of fact that's easily proven. Something being a lie requires proving state of mind. In the US I can't imagine actually winning such a suit, but its still safer to cover asses.
To call something a lie, the media outlet has to know, 100%, that the speaker knows it's a lie. It's difficult to impossible to meet that threshold in pretty much all cases.
A false statement is an untruth — a lie that could have resulted from an honest mistake, poor fact-checking, negligence, or just plain bad luck / stupidity.
People may say something that is known to them as the truth, but is not necessarily the objective truth as known by others. In that case, they would be making unwitting false claims. i.e. "it's not a lie if you believe it"
Basically it comes down to liability. If a media outlet directly calls something someone says a lie, they're going to get sued.
And Cheeto is a walking SLAAP lawsuit.
I don't know what the law says, but it seems to me you can tell a lie without lying. If I hear a lie and then repeat it, transitive property, baby.
He won't sue. If he sues they can subpoena and reveal that in private communications he admits the truth.
I mean, a smart person (or a dumb person who at least listened to the advice of their lawyers) wouldn't sue in that scenario. But this is Trump we're talking about, lol, so I'm less convinced.
Yes, but that would sink him if he did.
I would throw a few bucks in for their defense fund.
Honestly even that much is a big step for the New York Times. I’m a little surprised they’re not trying to “both sides” it.
True dat.
I am surprised they didn’t get a jab about Biden’s age in there.
the news on regular tv last night was totally lopsided. tons of 'reaction' from the right and far-right, hardly anything from anyone else.
The news on regular TV is almost all bought and paid for by Sinclair / Fox / whatever other explicit propaganda outlet. The people reading that bullshit may hate it a lot more than you do, but they may be contractually obligated to go up and say it. It's real fucked up.
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