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Elon Musk's xAI plans to build 'Gigafactory of Compute' by fall 2025 — using 100,000 Nvidia's H100 GPUs (www.tomshardware.com)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You know, The Infinite Monkey Theorem states that if you chain a room full of monkeys to typewriters and let them all beat the keys at random, for an infinite amount of time, they will . . . eventually . . . through sheer random chance . . . produce the comple works of William Shakespeare. Maybe in 10 trillion years or so. THIS is current state of "AI."

What Musk is proposing is like building an army of very expensive, very wasteful fusion-powered robots to beat the monkeys in the hope that the monkeys will work just a little bit faster.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

that is to illustrate the vastness of infinity not the efficacy of monkeys

assuming one infinite monkey:

sonnet 18 has 592 characters- or a chance of 4.3x10^-848

10 trillion is ^-13 for reference.

And the universe is not even 14 billion years old.

And the ^-848 was 14 lines, a onehundredth of a single percent of the complete works.

However, it's infinite monkeys, so the time it would take is effectively how every long it takes for one monkey to type that many lines. A few days? A week? In an infinite monkey cage it's done at the first attempt: that's the size of infinity.

All that to say, to replace that in power, if you converted all the mass in the universe to energy, and all the time until it's heat death and could combine them into one machine: probably not enough to clear Titus Andronicus.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Wait what? $4 billions worth of h100 🙃 such a funny guy...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

H100 isn’t $40, it’s $40,000. You’re making the Bloomberg Mistake: it costs $4,000,000,000 - four billion.

I can’t wait to see what clownshoes nonsense way he absolutely fucks this one up, but that’ll take a lot of liquidity he probably doesn’t have access to unless he gets the $45bn Tesla payout.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

xAI just finished up a funding round worth $6bn, he doesn't need to use his own money. It's the usual bunch of VC funds: Fidelity Sequoia, Kingdom Holdings (that's a Saudi fund).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Want to do a startup with me? I am thinking of a fleet of AI powered autonomous ice cream trucks, that can target where the demand is via social media and weather patterns.

Would like to get $400 million for our first round of funding...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Ohh my fault

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With what money? SpaceX is the only company with any kind of steady revenue to its name and that's only because the US government subsidised it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm guessing from new investors. That still believe Enron Musk groks it.

In a presentation for investors, Elon Musk revealed that the new supercomputer will use as many as 100,000 Nvidia's H100 GPUs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok I normally hate puns on peoples names, but Enron Musk is hilarious

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

UPS! That must have been a typo, any relation to a company that was fraudulent and went bankrupt is PURELY coincidental.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Better be careful, you might accidentally fall out of a helicopter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And how is he going to get all those cards? Does he know that all production is reserved for the big boys?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

That's probably the reason he is using an older version, the H200 is about to be released, and will free up supply of the older chips.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Did he just invent self-hosting?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How dare you! It's not self-hosting. It clearly says "GIGAFACTORY OF COMPUTE"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I know but I'm sure he's just throwing words around, what he meant is "gigafactory of COMPUTERS"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Tech-bro's finest minds.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can he stay out of jail by then?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would he go to jail? I must be out of the loop?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Fraud.

Yes, you are out of the loop.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Makes very little sense to downvote this, there are several points where Musk could go to jail. Both regarding fraud towards investors and also customers.

Probably the most obvious case is that Musk claimed in 2019 it would be possible to earn money on owning a Tesla, because it would be able to be used as a robo taxi by 2020.
But Full self driving required for Robo Taxi is still nowhere near ready.

He also claimed that Tesla would NOT depreciate like other cars, because they are the most future proof cars you can buy.
But Tesla cars have since depreciated faster than almost any other car, in part because of Tesla price reductions, and in part because the promises came to nothing.

There could also be situations considering Hyperloop, where he promised faster and cheaper public transport, and that it was actually easy to make. But the projects he has accepted all came to nothing.

There may be cases on his promises every year since 2016 that Tesla cars would be capable of FSD next year.

He has also made wildly exaggerated promises about SpaceX, that may constitute fraud towards investors. Starting a Mars base 2022, and manned missions 2024, I don't recall any SpaceX Mars missions.

People have invested their pensions on these false claims, and at some point, I have no doubt they will result in lawsuits, at least some of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks much for this. Frankly it's the Stochastiv Terrorism (buying twitter, banning accounts handpicked by the Andy Gno type, iirc, promoting anti-freedom-from/of-gender types, promoting zionists and anti-semites (but I repeat myself)...the general trend of amplifying danger for folks who whom the world is already primed to scapegoat or antagonize. It's harmed journalism and is moving the electoral overton window to the far-right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes it does seem the far right is doing better than they should be, this is unfortunately also the case in Europe. And it has very much to do with systematic control and manipulation of both normal media and social media by the 1%.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thank you for elaborating. Surely any credible allegations are being pursued by the DOJ and you can reference them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

While this wasn't treated as fraud, Musk did lose his $55 billion bonus as deemed an insider job, where Musk controlled the board to the detriment of other shareholders. Here (Denmark) we had a similar case in principle but by a majority shareholder (although much smaller), that resulted in 7 year jail time for the CEO/Stock majority holder that did it.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4438387-judge-rules-musk-must-give-up-tesla-compensation-worth-billions/

Why musk isn't in jail for this IDK, but IMO he should be, and by better standards he would be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Because he's the pride and token of US (and their greenwashing). AND the US already poured too much of the taxpayers' money into SpaceX & Tesla. To announce that they basically got granny-scammed by one loudmouth would be to destroy your international cred.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Google, I'm not your personal assistant.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m not the one committing libel my dude. You clearly can’t back up your feelings. You could have just mentioned something like FSD but apparently it’s easier to lash out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I can back up my feelings, I just don't have to. Not when I'm "required to present proof" by a rando with an internet access.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So what everyone else has been doing but smaller while calling it giga. Let me buy some TSLA shares.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Buy Nvidia shares. they're making the shovels...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I was being sarcastic but yeah. 😁

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that's already priced in. Anyone wanting to get on the Nvidia train for the AI push is a few years too late. Honestly, I expect it to be overpriced, with AI hype boosting it over the value it should have.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

If you wanna bet that AMD accelerators become a viable alternative while the bubble is still going, maybe bet on them. It's all gambling, in the end.

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