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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Sorry about that ridiculous watermark.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Personally, as long as it's provably safe, I'm fine with it.

As far as I'm concerned, if my consciousness is intact, and my body is a carbon copy, that's me. I place more weight on my consciousness being me than those specific atoms being me.

Besides, we all shed all of our atoms and replace them with new ones dozens of times throughout our lives. So we've already died in that way, I guess? But then again, it doesn't happen all at once, it's more of a ~~Ship~~ Body of Theseus type of thing.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Tbh the same logic can be applied to sleeping. If our consciousness is akin to computer ram and sleep is the brain cleaning up that ram, how can you know that when you wake up you're still the same person that went to sleep last night?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (15 children)

I never understood the problem people seem to complain about here.
A perfect copy, is perfect. There's no detectable, no measurable, no identifiable difference.
So what are you talking about? Unless you don't think perfect is actually perfect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (14 children)

A copy isn't you, it's someone else, a clone. It means you die when you step into the teleporter and someone else takes over your life.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Because you won’t be the copy, the copy will be the copy.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Because it's still a copy, so you still die. Imagine if there was a delay between the copy being produced and the original being destroyed, long enough for them to see each other if transported within the same room.

To Be

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Jesus Christ, existential crisis for the morning.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

From an outsider's point of view sure, but does your consciousness dies when dematerialized, only to have a copy of your consciousness going on in the rematerialized body as if nothing happened?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That is only an actual issue when you are some sort of spiritualist. From a materialist point of view, the entirety of you is "just" a very complex interplay of elementary particles.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (5 children)

But is the copy me from my conscious point of view? I don’t care that it looks the same externally. Will I still be inside the ship?

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 7 months ago (15 children)

The fact that two Rikers existed is all the proof I need to be full Luddite. Save your death machines for the next person, thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Typical McCoy. Calls turbolifts elevators and transporters teleporters.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (6 children)

This is why I want monsters Inc style linked door-wormholes. It's less... Reconstituted flesh.

Less room for duplicates, more room for halfsies I guess

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