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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Sorry about that ridiculous watermark.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But is the copy me from my conscious point of view? I don’t care that it looks the same externally. Will I still be inside the ship?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It mainly depends if you believe in a soul that is never copied that makes it "you", or a purely mechanical view of consciousness that says if all parts are copied there is no difference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. The copy is you as far as it can tell.
And the original you doesn't exist anymore to be able to tell anything.

So "you" continue, from your point of view.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no.. that's not sufficient. There's a new me that was not me that is now me, yes, but the original me is gone. Story ended from my point of view, from the new me's point of view it was all fine but they will end in the next transport.

If it can be undeniably proven exactly the same as sleeping or anesthesia, fine. If consciousness provably persists all the way from de-materialization, transport, and re-materialization, like Lt. Barkley. fine. But if there is any doubt that consciousness ends, and a new consciousness is created, that is where the problem lies, and why many, like McCoy, won't use one willingly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But consciousness doesn't persist through sleeping or anesthesia. It stops, then starts again some time later. The continuity of memory seems persistent to the consciousness, so it can't really tell the difference. Because it would be impossible for a consciousness to perceive it's own down time.

And it's not really accurate to say a new consciousness is created. It would be more accurate to say the same consciousness is recreated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I'm not trying to be combative, just to illustrate the point: "cite your sources."

Definitive research is needed.