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Framework: Repairable MacBook: Not Repairable
Winner: Framework.
According to https://www.notebookcheck.net/ , a framework 13 with a Ryzen 7840U will run out of battery 22% faster than the macbook but will outperform the macbook by 85% on some benchmarks. I wouldn't pick the mac.
Would you recommend the Intel or AMD version? I’m not very updated on what distinguishes the AMD.
AMD is as fast in cpu, faster in GPU, and has(much) better battery life. At least until framework gets meteor lake
If you're considering a framework laptop I can't imagine you'd want to be stuck on Apple software/silicon.
Are you only considering the hardware/price, or also the software side?
Which OS'es do you have experience with, and/or preference for?
The previous Mac I used was the first one they made with a colour screen (yes, I'm that old). Then last year I got a Mac laptop and I wanted to love it ... but man, that OS is getting in my way something fierce! To such an extent, in fact, that I switched over to my own (arguably inferior) Thinkpad that's been running Linux since forever.
Apple does flat-rate repairs for Mac laptops that haven't been damaged by impact or liquid damage. If they can perform a repair cheaper in-store, they usually will do so, but I am going on old info from being a repair tech at an Apple Store a decade ago. You could ask an Apple Store employee to get the cost of flat-rate repairs from a technician and then you'd know what you're potentially looking at. I've owned many Mac laptops and only needed a repair on one (and that was still under warranty).
I'm a Mac nerd who's fascinated by Framework laptops. I don't think either decision would be wrong. I haven't got to test drive one, so I can't offer an informed opinion beyond what I've said here.
Framework
One other thing that you should consider is what kind of software you know you need to run. I did read in the other comments that you mentioned Microsoft Office. If you need a native installed version, that’s where Mac or Windows will be stronger options.
That said, I have both a 2017 MacBook Pro as well as a 1st generation Framework laptop. Between the two of them, I prefer the Framework for a wide variety of reasons. Repairability and upgradability being major factors.
If you opt to use the framework laptop, I know the keyboard can be swapped out for a different language one. After looking at all the different keyboards they have, they don’t have Swedish as an option, but as an alternative, you could always get one of the blank ones and add the lettering down the line. Each operating system can change different keyboard formats on the fly, so even if you used a standard English QWERTY one, it could be switched to DVORAK in the OS and function like it. This should be the same for a Swedish language one if I’m not mistaken.
Finally for operating systems, if you need specific apps, Windows will likely give you the most compatibility with whatever you need to work with. Linux on the other hand is what I personally use and recommend if you’re willing to try something else. If you do, Linux Mint is the easiest one to jump into for a wide variety of reasons. And as a side note, you can also dual boot, using Windows for your studies and Linux for everything else.
I know this was a longer response but I hope that gives you some insight for your situation. Good luck!
Thank you for the response, I appreciate it! I’m not sure I understand the paragraph about the keyboard, however; do you mind explaining how switching the format will affect it?
Sure. In Windows there’s ways to change the settings for it. I’ll link some steps on that. I’ll also give the direct link if you want to use a blank keyboard:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/learning-center/how-to-remap-your-keyboard
That article above goes very in depth about how to get that done. Depending on what you need to work with; foreign languages, different key formats, etc. it should have the steps to switch them out and give you the best workflow. The short of it though, even if your physical keys show one thing, they will react like you expect with a keyboard you’re familiar with.
As for the physical framework keyboard: https://frame.work/marketplace/keyboards
That second link will shows the different keyboard options they have. As a side note, if you choose the DIY edition, you can pick from the different keyboards rather than be stuck with default English. Still doesn’t have Swedish, but may give you a better alternative this way.
Do note, the DIY edition does require some assembly. When I got mine I had to install the wireless card, memory and SSD. Everything else is basically pre-assembled. https://frame.work/products/laptop-diy-13-gen-intel?q=processor
Feel free to ask more questions if you need to. And you’re welcome
The letters printed on the keys actually don't matter.
When you install an OS or set up your user, there's always a step asking you your language, right? Part of that is what the OS will interpret the keyboard key codes as.
For example, I pick US English as my language and then also say that I want "Dvorak" as my keyboard layout instead of the normal "Qwerty".
After that, my laptop keyboard (which is the standard Qwerty everyone in the US gets with their Dell laptop) will be interpreted by the OS as actually being Dvorak layout instead, so typing the keys labeled "asdf" makes "aoeu" show up.
Software keyboard layout vs hardware keyboard layout.
Funny, I was just watching something about framework! It's got some discussion of various framework reviews and the pros and cons of the machine.
https://www.youtube.com/live/KDIXNRgnDWQ/?t=21m49s
With framework being a new company, looks like they're working out some bugs, but they're doing it quickly and transparently. The laptop costs more per performance than other options, but since you can upgrade it down the line, you can save money in the long run.
Compared to a MacBook, it really depends on the applications you use. Video editing is likely going to be better on mac, but good luck trying to game on it. Mac has better battery life, but you'll pay an arm and a leg to repair anything, sometimes being cheaper to buy a whole new machine than pay their exorbitant prices.
So it all depends on the use case, but I'd go with framework. I care that the company isn't adversarial, and it would work for what I use a laptop for.
Having an iPhone won’t make Mac any easier, but it will be more integrated. Lots of nice convenience features like a shared note library and your text messages can be interacted with from the laptop.
Not sure what the cost difference is, but considering your other messages were talking about starting out on the path of cybersecurity, a more open platform that you can run Linux off of would probably trump the conveniences.
Just go with framework, it is going to better in every single way, I would probably install linux on it if I were you. (you expressed your concerns about microaoft being an evil corporation)
Look at an older year of framework too
My place of work uses macs at work, I like them though I'm fairly platform agnostic. I have windows PCs for home theater use, and Linux laptops for personal use. I like macbooks but loath the complete lack of upgradability. We have so many old macs that just get scrapped. PCs are no different, but this is my workplace. If you have to buy a laptop, buy a used one and wipe it or buy a framework. Framework laptops should be upgradable for close to a decade by their vision. That's without third party support. Support a vision for a consumer rights future or buy used IMO.