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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I mean.. I enjoyed and upvoted but this is false. We have millennia of prewiring and Darwinism under the belt

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

And damn few safety nets.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I think about this now and again, because the canals where I live often don't have fencing alongside to stop you falling in. A piece of the brutality of the universe in the city.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (5 children)

There is a term for this, but I can't remember what it is.

It's a phenomenon where a person goes through their formative years in a given structure, where you are raised by your parents, go to school, and are given set goals for every year - do X and you'll get to Y. This goes all the way up to your early twenties if you go to university, possibly longer if you join a structured company with similar guardrails, or much longer when you join the armed forces and live in a regimented way.

Once people leave these guardrails, some really struggle with the freedom they are granted. No one has a goal to point you towards, no one cares if you fail, and ultimately your life has a degree of freedom you haven't experienced ever.

One thing we're terrible at as a society is either guiding people with no clear path, or supporting those that don't want a clear path and want to find one of their own. Some people really struggle with this, and the freedom of being able to do shit like overindulge on drugs/alcohol/food with no support or community support can ruin lives.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A few years ago I worked as a telecoms engineer. The role itself was pretty free-roaming and a large part of your working day was unsupervised and allowed you to make your own decisions and your day to day achievements were pretty much all down to you and/or the guys you were working with.

Anyway, the company had a spell where they hired a lot of ex armed forces personnel into various engineering roles, many of whom had done long stints in the military. Pretty much every veteran I worked with was smart, hard working, organised and a joy to work with. With one caveat, most of them needed an 'order' to do a particular thing, or pushing into thinking for themselves. They had spent their entire working life in a structured, order based environment, that left them unprepared when they were given the freedom to think for themselves.

I can totally get how homelessness and addiction problems can beset people when the structure they have spent their whole lives within, is suddenly not there any longer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's so interesting. Objectively, it's neither good nor bad. The indifferentness of the universe to our coping with freedom is wild and interesting, a rollercoaster on its own

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I think this is the cause of a lot of veteran houselessness and suicide unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A lot of things are worth doing for the sake of challenging yourself, but then battling your own mind about if something is a wasted effort or not is the real war.

As a general rule, anything you have to repeatedly do you should master.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Or figure out how to do it less.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's why religion unfortunately continues to exist. They are the imaginary guardrails, but towards an imaginary goal that is often taken advantage of.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In my opinion this is a bit of a narrow view. It definitely holds true for many Christians. But I think some religions like Buddhism may actually help you find a way without guard rails.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It certainly did for Hitler!

The problem with the guardrails that actually do work is that they often encompass entire fields of active and progressive study that is constantly evolving, and most people/families/societies ain't have the time or experience to keep up with that. Living without guardrails is simple, it's called evolution.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are no guardrails in life

Except for, of course, any actual guardrails you encounter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Those are usually only guard suggestions

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The pop up is called natural selection. Any of your distant ancestors who clicked “Yes” to eating dirt did not survive.

Sadly, we have been so good at protecting people from stupid, we need the popups again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Eating dirt might even work out but eating stones doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Is it that sad, or is it actually great!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some people have ancestors who are dirt. It's called geophagy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

If you have ever taken an OTC anti acid you've likely eaten dirt. You can actually buy white dirt in the American south still. It tastes just like tums.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Never know if the dirt eaters won or not. They might've been up against shit eaters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Ah, the two party system, dirt eaters vs shit eaters. But more parties does not equal no dirt and shit, sometimes it just becomes dirt, shit, manure, fecal matter and plain old sand.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did this person not have a mama?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Breaking news: not all parents are good at parenting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Footnote to news: An astonishing high number of parents should not have become parents

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