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California cannot ban gun owners from having detachable magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, a federal judge ruled Friday.

The decision from U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez won’t take effect immediately. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, a Democrat, has already filed a notice to appeal the ruling. The ban is likely to remain in effect while the case is still pending.

This is the second time Benitez has struck down California’s law banning certain types of magazines. The first time he struck it down — way back in 2017 — an appeals court ended up reversing his decision.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Magazine size laws aren't really effective at doing anything. Up in Canada you can't have a rifle magazine with more than 5 rounds. However, almost all of the magazines are full size magazines that have been modified to hold fewer rounds. All of the responsible owners leave them at 5, but with a minute or two of work you could turn most of them into full size again. We don't have mass shootings every day.

Gun violence in America is a culture issue. You're broken.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of the hillbillies I know have a fully automatic M14 with a 20 round magazine from the Korean War. It was a pleasure to fire that thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A magazine is literally just a box of certain geometry with a spring inside it. They can be 3D printed or made by hand. No government anywhere can stop the signal. Instead we need to focus on the cultural rot that made narcissists decide it was OK to assault random strangers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the magazine size restrictions the only difference between the gun laws of America and Canada?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The most effective part of our gun laws is preventing violent offenders from obtaining a license (and maybe having a license to start with, I guess).

Beyond that, almost every other part of our laws are a ridiculous dog and pony show meant to appease some group or other in some way that's usually completely ineffective.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, as a leftist who likes guns for fun, survival, self defense, and theoretical political unrest... I still think it's ridiculous we don't have gun licenses in the US. Or a gun ownership registry.

Bans restrict freedom for everyone.

License and registration lets you maintain that freedom for most, but still restrict it where necessary (e.g. crime, mental health), and more easily track and punish those who misuse firearms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly, it's very hard to respect the anti gun crowd when they focus on banning things that don't even matter beyond comfort or aesthetics. It's just all feel good bs that does nothing but hinder the average joe

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Simple solution: tax the ever-loving fuck out of bullets. $1000 per. Call it a "true cost adjustment."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Says the guy who is vastly unaware of how many responsibly armed citizens they cross paths with on a daily basis, and who have demonstrably prevented mass shootings. You have no idea the hidden safety net you live under and yet you want it destroyed because of the few bad actors.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

And just in case you're looking for your "good guys with a gun," they're all standing outside of a school, waiting and shitting their pants. It's pathetic.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Yup. Yes. A few bad actors spoiled it for the rest of you. Waa waa waa...grow up. Y'all can't figure out if guns are a hobby or a necessity, but you seem to always fall back on both points pretty quickly. It's sad that your "interests" seem to threaten our very existence, yet you feel like you have some inalienable right to kill others. It's extremely sad and disappointing. I suggest you grow up and find other ways to entertain yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only rich people deserve the right to self defense eh?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who's gonna shoot you if mini-missles cost a grand? Defend yourself with something else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People don't sell untaxed smokes and booze, huh?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And those people get arrested. What aren't we understanding here? Selling weapons of war should be easier than smokes or booze? What kind of logic is that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Because you have no other argument?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a brilliantly uneducated idea. Thanks for turning my hunting season into a 3k dollar minimum adventure instead of a cheap way for me to put food on my table.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Use a bow, like a real man.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish you the best of luck with that. Poor taxes were the strategy behind the NFA - its incredible unpopularity guarantees it won't make it through either branch of Congress let alone both.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if this ban stays, it will only effect law abiding citizens.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

And where do the criminals get their guns from?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

States rights!

Wait, no not like that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yes, the state has no right to infringe upon your rights, like say slavery.* Fought a whole war about that actually.

*Unless of course you wind up in the prison system, then they can infringe upon your rights, but that is also a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like slavery, but not bodily autonomy or the right to representative government or the right to not be discriminated against, or the right against infringement of property rights or ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, I support all those rights, and the right to bear arms. Looks like it's you who's lackin'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about Republicans who definitely don't support those rights

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct, given it's a constitutional right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The constitution doesn't guarantee magazine sizes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you planning any mass shootings? Because that's the only thing AR-15s and large magazines are good for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, how are Americans meant to shoot and kill the 11 intruders that come into their bedroom at night as they sleep if their AR-15 mag is limited to 10 rounds.

Good to see common sense prevail. Now to lift the ban on belt fed firearms so Americans can really live free (or at least those who aren't brown, black, female, queer, progressive, poor or school children).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gun rights are also trans rights. And gay rights. It's also veeeeeeeeeery interesting how interested the state is in making sure that certain groups of people aren't armed, e.g., black and brown people.

I'm guessing that you haven't heard of The Pink Pistols or Operation Blazing Sword, or heard the saying, "armed queers bash back". You might be vaguely aware that MLK Jr. was denied the right to a pistol permit (back when many states in the south had 'may issue' laws, rather than 'shall issue'), and as a result was usually surrounded by people that were armed, because this non-violent stuff'll get you killed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trans and gay people would be a whole hell of a lot safer if the people who wanted to kill them were unarmed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, you will literally never be able to guarantee that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Plenty of other countries manage to do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, how are Americans meant to shoot and kill the 11 intruders that come into their bedroom at night as they sleep if their AR-15 mag is limited to 10 rounds.

Skill issue. Line them up so you kill multiple targets with 1 round, and learn how to reload faster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

my man doesn't affix a bayonet and it shows