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Therapy (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

I think that's pretty cool, seems like a net positive for everyone, guy loves trains..guy fixes train...shares passion with community...more people love train. He wins, train wins, community wins.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (7 children)

That is therapy

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Doing something you enjoy ✅

Doing something with a community ✅

Doing something different to your normal routine ✅

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

therapy is anything you want it to be. there are 100s of styles, varieties, and etc.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

And get more out of it too

[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why would someone assume these people needed therapy in the first place?

[+] [email protected] -27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

because men are bad, and women are good.

and the only way for men to get good is to spend $1000s of dollars talking to therapists, who are predominantly women.

or maybe... the apparatus of therapy is woman-biased and therefore it negates and legitimatizes men's emotions and their expression. and the positive things men do in the world with their emotions must be shame and ridicule because they should submit to our belief that talk-therapy is the only legitimate form of emotional outlet...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You can flip that around and suggest that it's normal and accepted for men to put effort into a hobby as a mental release, and this should be perfectly fine for women as well, but sometimes it's not amd they are in the past seen as weird, abnormal, or hysterical for having interests.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

But it isn't normal and accepted for men to put effort into a hobby? It is common and clichéd to mock men endlessly for their interests? Like in this very post?

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[+] [email protected] -33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

The vast, vast majority of men (in the US, can't speak to other cultures) need therapy. Just getting over internalized phobias is something the entire culture needs. Really, everyone needs therapy at some point and very few have a chance to get it, and fewer take it.

But in regards to this meme: men tend to need therapy more. The patriarchy (what society pushes as male "culture") heavily represses emotional expressions and few men have an outlet to talk to their friends or family about their feelings. This leads to a lot of repressed emotions, lashing out, etc.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (3 children)

These guys are not lashing out, though. There is no discernable connection between somebody taking an interest in trains and avoiding therapy lol

[+] [email protected] -23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

It's impossible to tell. But my statement that pretty much everyone needs therapy, especially men, still stands.

That and it's a joke meme not a personal attack. Because often men do engage in distractions instead of dealing with their feelings. Everyone does, but men have less-encouraged avenues to pursue dealing with it. This is meant to convey that many men are disadvantaged at dealing with issues, know the solution, but still refuse to try to fix it. It's a common enough occurrence that this is a meme.

Edit: lol. Lemmy is really full of insecure men.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Really, everyone needs therapy at some point

What we need is a society and environment that aligns with human nature.
Yes, I'm in therapy and I take meds. But I sure as fuck didn't need any therapy and meds during the 6 months I worked as a hiking and horseback riding guide in a Provincial Park in British Columbia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Agreed. Most of us need therapy because we are in an aggressively hostile society. In a humane society, we'd only rarely need therapy when traumatic and rare events occurred, or similar instances.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I make off decently with how much my company pays for insurance. Would I rather have full universal health care though? You bet your ass

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

My local Old trains club owns 3 Museums and about 100 km of railway... There has to be a lot to unpack.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

SO FUCKING WHAT?!?!? DO I NEED TO ASK PERMISSION TO HAVE A FUCKING HOBBY, YOUR MAJESTY??? JESUS CHRIST!!! (smashing noises and incoherent yelling from garage)

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like somebody needs to go restore a train...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Men will literally pay someone to have a conversation about their feelings instead of restoring a train.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

They dodge depression by doing something that brings joy to their hearts instead of constantly complaining about how depressed they are and how therapy is essential for everyone these days? How dare they!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

Who says instead? Seems like people with their heads on right

[–] [email protected] 181 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Sounds like a form of therapy in and of itself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Yeah, most people today meed therapy because they feel isolated from their work, unappreciated, and are stressed about finances. A hobby where you work towards a common goal with no real world consequences is what most people need in their life right now. ~~~~

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

https://mensshed.org/

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That was my thought.

Men got themselves a hobby they enjoy, and gets to share with others. Two amazing things for someones overall mental health. Sounds like someone living the dream.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I was gonna say that these men DID go to therapy.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 11 months ago

Sharing your enjoyment with others. Work you can take pride in. Preserving history. Sounds pretty great for mental health.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And probably cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can guarantee it’s not cheaper

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, restorations aren't cheap, and the bigger the parts get, the more expensive they get. And it's not like you can hit up ye olde fireboxes-r-us anymore.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Depends on if you're in America, or a real first world country.

One won't be cheaper, the other has a high likelihood of being cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also depends on your insurance. I pay $25 per visit, and even over a year when I went every week, I doubt it was more expensive than restoring a train lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

And how much do you pay just to have that insurance? How much lower is your paycheck because your company provides insurance?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It is what it is

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once upon a time there was a Little Engine that Could, that said "I think I can, I think I can!" Now it just says "It is what it is, it is what it is..."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And when another train complained, they sealed him in a tunnel, Cask of Amontillado style.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But is it what it is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It could be

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is this a reference from another post today?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I'd take that post over the bear.

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