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    I remember when Proton launched it was like magic playing games like Doom and Nier Automata straight from the Linux Steam client with excellent performance. I do not miss the days of having the Windows version of Steam installed separately.

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

    Absolutelyβ€”while there are still challenges, the progress in Linux gaming over the past few years is impressive. Compatibility layers like Proton and broader developer support have made a huge difference.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    in my case pretty much all heavy games work much better on Linux than on windows(laptop came with windows, so tested before putting Linux on it and then compared). in many cases I get around 1.5 to 2 times the performance, stability is also much greater, this is both for new and old games. that said I tend to avoid those games with insane mallware(drm) in it.

    system uses a apu and has only 16gb ram and 1.5tb nvme ssd. so might also be it has a much bigger effects on APU since Linux handles ram much better. but if a system suffers from other similar bottlenecks like: storage, ram, compute, TDP and thermal, etc. problems should also result in much better performance when switching to Linux. I guess the only exception would be if the GPU compute power would litterally 100% be the only bottleneck, or close to that, but in a APU(where one might assume games to be heavily bottlenecked by GPU compute power) GNU+Linux gives much better performance.

    also this was tested on Garuda Linux KDE Dragonized edition, and changed the kernel to a newer one since by default it will use a kernel optimized or first gen ryzen. which gives some issues and lower performance.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    It's an important milestone as it's the only effective way to make PC gaming available on operating systems other than Windows (i.e., reduce one of the Windows monopolies). Still, Linux gamers shouldn't take it too far. I'd advise everyone to still not support game studios which are openly hostile towards Linux gamers. This especially includes the ones who rely on client-side anticheat tools and then use those to block Linux gamers even though the game would run perfectly fine on Linux as well. Please do not support such games or studios (e.g.: Epic Games, EA, Bungie, Riot). Thanks to Proton, there is still a massive number of Windows games that can be played instead.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    Okay I can definitely back up the second claim. World of Warships, a DirectX only game, runs and loads better on Linux with Proton. I tested both on SSD and HDD, and in both scenarios the game runs at a higher FPS and loads faster. I legitimately have no idea why.

    I originally tested on HDD and guessed that ext4 was just much better with the IO speeds because NTFS would fragment like hell. But then it also was the same with an SSD and now I'm not sure.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Still waiting on Borderlands 2 to be playable

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Isn't it? I finished that game on linux years ago, including a lot of multiplayer.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Serious question: how do nvidia drivers perform on Linux? I've heard they're not very good and missing features. Anything I should know about? I have an RTX 3060ti that I use for both games and stuff like blender, substance designer/painter, etc.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    Valve literally went "you know what fuck the profits we need off Windows" and they did what nobody else has done before.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Windows too busy using those cpu cycles to gather your usage metrics for sale to third parties.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    Somewhat true, but the truth is that the CPU scheduler on Windows is just awful. It literally wastes performance because it doesn't optimize instructions as efficiently as schedulers on other OSes.

    Without going into details, we ported an application that I worked with that did complex scientific calculations to Linux. All the calculations code was done in C and C++ so it was 99.9% OS agnostic. We consistently got at least a 50% performance increase when running on Linux as opposed to Windows. We tested just about every edition of Windows from Windows 8/Server 2013 to Windows 10/Server 2019. The version of Windows that did best was Windows 7 and Linux was 50% faster. All the other editions were slower.

    And the distro of Linux didn't matter much. A few percent difference here and there, but all of them were astonishingly faster than Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If I as an older person would like to start using linux, where would you recommend to start? Is there an easy guide I can follow on how to use linux?

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    I'll recommend NobaraOS. It comes with everything set up out-of-the box and you can change interface to Windows or macOS style.

    DO NOT SWITCH, until you've found that every software you use has a Linux version... Or an alternative which works on Linux as well as for you.

    ALSO DO NOT SWITCH if you have the 30 or 40 series NVIDIA cards. Or any NVIDIA card for that matter.

    YouTube channel recommendations - The Linux Experiment, Tech Hut, Gardiner Bryant (old videos, he just makes Steam Deck content now)

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    ALSO DO NOT SWITCH if you have the 30 or 40 series NVIDIA cards. Or any NVIDIA card for that matter.

    Why? I've got a 3060, and it's running perfectly under Mint. It's worked on the half a dozen or so other distros I've live booted too.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Linux Mint is often touted as the most similar looking GUI to windows, so if you want Linux, but looking like windows that might be your best bet. You will find many guides for how to install Linux. If you want to just try it out first (and not just overwrite windows), you'll need to free up some disk space and create an empty partition to install Linux on.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    Linux mint is just nice to deal with. I distro-hopped to see what was out there but I came back to mint. It plays my games and runs my AI and works with whatever old garbage i plug in without needing to download shifty drivers from a shifty site like with windows.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Imagine a completely different OS running software made for your OS better than your actual OS could. This is Microsoft Windows

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

    Not only OS - written using 3D APIs closed source available only for your OS.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    In the time I have been a Linux gamer, it has gone from "here is a list of games that work in Linux" to "here is a list of games that do not work in Linux." Which some dictionaries define as "progress."

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    In 2003, it was my dream to play FF7 in Linux. In 2019, my dream came true. Thanks Proton, Codeweavers, Wine, Valve, et al for helping me finally put down Sephiroth right.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    That's crazy! When I was last trying to run Linux full time in ~2014, you had WINE and then a commercial version of WINE (not by the WINE devs, but because WINE is licensed the way it is and is open source...) that would run a few more things, but I don't remember what it was called.

    So glad to hear it's progressing this quickly and far.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I started out in 2014, and pretty much what I did was look to see if there was a Steam logo on the Steam store page to indicate Linux compatibility. With Proton in the last few years, I just don't really worry about it. I will say my tastes have just about always lined up with the kinds of games, the kinds of studios, that are likely to publish for Linux, the nerd shit like Kerbal Space Program and Factorio. I don't play Call of Fifa, Modern Fortnite or whatever.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

    What about Red Theft Autoredemption, or Overwatch of Legends? πŸ˜†

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

    a commercial version of WINE

    That would be CrossOver by CodeWeavers. They're actually a huge contributor to upstream Wine and have worked with Valve (and I think Collabora?) several times over the past few years. I'm kind of tempted to buy a copy of CrossOver to support them even though I'd never use it, lol

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    That's a perfect way to put it. From constantly relying on ProtonDB to occasionally checking areweanticheatyet.com.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Oh I'd never even heard of that second site haha.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    And to say that there used to be a time when "Linux gaming" was an oxymoron as it at most meant SuperTuxKart or mindlessly watching glxgears.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Anticheat is about to force this progress backwards years as publishers push drm

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    True I just moved my gaming PC to Linux and wow!! Almost all of my games run on Linux. Thank you for everyone working so hard.