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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If Trump gets jail time, it should be from right before the nomination to after the day of the election. Since he can only be jailed one month per offense, I would hold off on jail until he can't get out before the election. Ideally, the first time Trump sees prison should be after a jury conviction - as he has already set up a "woe is me, the judge is a liberal plant" defense if the jailing comes purely under the discretion of judge.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

joke's on you imagining there's a circumstance in which he'd simply accept responsibility for the constant parade of crimes he commits. he's gonna whine and play victim no matter how obviously guilty he is or how much preferential treatment he's received.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It won't be timed like that due to his currently pending contempt charges — it'll look like 30 days or less, happening in May.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Prosecutors are walking Keith Davidson through his text messages with Dylan Howard, who was editor of The National Enquirer, in which Davidson tells Howard: “I have blockbuster Trump story.” In his reply, Howard asked, "did he cheat" on Melania.

Lol. The head of the National Enquirer was told there was a blockbuster story about Trump and he just assumed Trump had cheated on Melania. Or as Trump calls her: "Melanie".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We're doomed. If it's not fascism, it's bird flu. Really it's probably both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Climate change

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago

And let THAT be a LESSON to this BILLIONAIRE!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Wen jail?

Seriously, BFD. 9k is nothing and he won't go to jail even though he should already be there.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (1 children)

$1000 is the maximum contempt of court fine per offense allowed in the state of New York. While this is definitely chump change for trump know that the judge can't charge him more. At least he's threatening incarceration.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Couldn't they just cut to the incarceration?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Couldn’t they just cut to the incarceration?

Doing so would give grounds to file for a mistrial if / when Trump is convicted and nobody wants that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How would holding somebody accountable for their actions result in a mistrial?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The fine is $1000, so it's sole purpose is to be a weapon against the working class.

The system is designed to enable rich criminals to prosper.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a normal pattern to how courts work and if a court deviates from that pattern it opens up another avenue for the defense to request a mistrial.

I get that everyone wants the max penalty straight off the jump when it comes to Trump but its far more important that it be done correctly in order to minimize future problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is this the normal pattern? Ignore several times before issuing a fine?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Judges have discretion and discretionary authority to issue contempt, and such orders and penalties are rarely overturned. Most fines and incarceration would definitely happen with less stimulus.

It's not fair and it does undermine equal application of justice to not treat Trump like every other petty criminal. The issue is that using every pretext available to delay the trial is Trump's only game right now, and if you're playing to win (Trump convicted and/or in jail prior to the election), you don't give him any pretexts. I get it. It sucks, but it's the rational move.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They could, but doing that on the 2nd round of contempt charges later this week might reduce the odds of his becoming a martyr over it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Let's see if he deletes the stuff by 2:15pm today or not....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's gone. Trump never fights back. He just cries like a baby.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That's like charging me $0.90 or $1.80 depending on if I inflate my assets at all

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

It's the maximum allowed per offense in New York. But now that he has been fined, the judge can escalate next time he violates the order.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Trumps a broke bitch, at the absolute minimum, it's going to piss him off to the point he's going to be laying awake raging. Golly, I hope it doesn't give him a McHeartattack. I want to see him suffer through the rest of the court cases.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Yes but it sets legal dominoes in motion in ALL of his cases.

The bail conditions in ALL his cases include not breaking any laws. Federal, state and local laws.

He's now charged with "contempt of court" so he should be getting more orange soon. 🤞

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Wake me up when green is the new orange

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

I'll take "More Shit that Won't Happen" for $600, Alex.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

$9,000? So now contempt of court has a price tag, and it's one even his fraudulent ass can easily afford. Way to make things worse again, guys.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That’s like fining a normal person a nickle.

Why aren’t these things based on net worth? These systems are so broken.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

These systems are so broken.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does

The system is functioning exactly as designed, to the benefit of those that designed it and to the detriment of people they consider enemies. Making crime legal for a fee is exactly what it's supposed to do, as that allows the aristocrats to continue regulating the rest of us while giving them free rein.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's the legal maximum fine. Judge can impose jail time, but didn't this time. There are already four more gag order violations which will be discussed later in the week.