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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I'd buy it, but... when we die which one goes on as a soul, or do they both?

I'm just kidding of course....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Check out- Thinking, Fast and Slow By: Daniel Kahneman

It deals with the concepts of two minds in one. System one and system two

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

this explains a lot .....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

" We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe." — von Goethe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The only thing I can think of that this could refer to is split brain patients who have undergone a specific medial procedure once used to treat epilepsy. It's possible, although not well understood, that the two halves of their brain operate sort of independently, and only one has access to speech.

It's a very interesting topic, well worth diving into! But it's also very muddy, there is contrasting evidence for and against the "two mind" theory.

Anyway, I'm fairly certain this "theory" does not apply to healthy brains which have not undergone this procedure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I heard that that was a misunderstanding, and the two halves of the brain are still the same entity, but with more limited ability to communicate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you're interested I highly recommend this evidence review on the topic. I don't remember the details but there does remain some compelling evidence for both sides. It seems like the two halves are able to communicate in some ways, but not in others. It's not fully clear if this means there are two distinct consciousnesses, or if they continue to operate as one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well I'll be, still I think "Still continue to operate as one" makes less assumptions, we barely know consciousness is even real to begin with, how can we confidently say that it's like an infinitely dividable amoeba of some kind? I guess I'll check the link.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah I think that's what's so interesting about it! It's one of the few situations where we have been able to (in a limited way) study how consciousness comes about in a mind. Perhaps leaving us with more questions than answers... Tantalising.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Inside you there are 2 wolves

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Mine share the same lonely neuron.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

And neither one has access to speech

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

You mean the wolves?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Wait... Just two?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

they could just ask me and I would confirm

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What, you guys haven't killed the other one? You truly aren't minmaxing your brain usage capacity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You don't kill the other one. You work on coordinating them so you can consciously apply yourself to two different things at once.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Multi-threading.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Neither of mine can do speech.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

oh there’s way more than two minds in your brain.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

I too have ADHD

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

It certainly feels like that at times. The key being the non verbal part, it's the part that feels things i can't explain, like I have to poke and probe some part of my brain by imagining, to try and see how it reacts to certain thoughts and observe the emotions, then try to put it into words to explain it to the conscious part of my mind. Like, the subconscious is not unconscious, it's perfectly conscious just not verbal.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So that's why my constant inner-monologue is verbose and meaningful, but I can't communicate for shit?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Nah, that's just anxiety my dude.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bicameral Mentality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameral_mentality

It's a concept that is quite well explored by the first season of Westworld.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Either I was too high watching it or no it fuckin wasn't

I will accept either explanation

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Probably the first haha, it's the name of the finale episode of the first season and it's even mentioned in the Wikipedia article I linked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It's the same as the old devil v angel on your shoulder bit. There's a left hemisphere mode of understanding, a right hemisphere mode of understanding, and there's what happens when they're well integrated, which is mostly only achievable through meditation.

Just for the record, the left brain is the denialist, which offers hypotheticals and which takes the behaviour of others and places it firmly outside yourself, edifying the lie you tell yourself that you are separate and different from the other largely identical monkeys. The right brain tends to communicate in gestalts and complete pictures, without negativity and possibly without reference to individuality; YMMV.

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