I got dv'd to the ninth circle of hell for saying this, some months ago. I wouldn't have said it if my Dr hadn't said they had the opportunity to look at deceased smoker's lungs next to deceased vaper's lungs. I left out that part, but still.
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The researchers tested flavored and “clear” versions of three of the most popular products — Esco Bar, Flum Pebble, and ELF Bar — and found “excessive emissions of toxic metallic elements” in the aerosols from each of them.
All three of which are from the same company. I'm not seeing any information there about where these are manufactured, but if I guessed China, I probably wouldn't be wrong.
Are any not made there?
Eta: I'm not sure this is a manufacturer as much as a dealer.
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They're worse in one particular way, which isn't the most significant way that cigarettes cause harm. They're not worse overall. Vaping has been a major public-health success story, and it's odd to see people trying to discourage it with misleading headlines. The perfect is the enemy of the good here.
And they’re talking about cheap Chinese gas station vapes here. If you use quality coils, there won’t be lead at all.
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if you're hooked on nicotine and you havent tried them, then give nicotine pouches a try. i switched to them from vaping and all the asthma went away overnight. plus no one knows when you've got one under your lip
Everyone knows when you have one under your lip
ok. i've never been asked to "go outside to nicotine pouch" so whatever
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Do they offer low-nicotine ones to wean off? Or are you just limiting yourself to oral cancers instead of oral, lung, etc.?
Yes, they do offer them in varying levels of nicotine. I decided about a month ago to stop vaping after doing it daily for 10 years. Ordered some patches and some gum, and while I was waiting on those I tried the pouches. They do work and you can get them in lower strengths to wean yourself off.
If your goal is to quit nicotine entirely, be careful that you don't just fully swap one addiction for another. I'm still working on getting off of the pouches, but it's getting better, and my lungs feel so much better now.
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To help put things in perspective, the researchers compared the health risks of disposable e-cigarettes to other types of smoking, and found that Esco Bar devices released more lead during a day’s use than 19 packs of traditional cigarettes.
This is salt based liquid though
And? The metals come from the metal components of the vaporizer itself.