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Tankie: This is US propaganda!
this post was submitted on 23 Apr 2024
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These words also instantly make me lose respect for anyone who repeats them:
- Western imperialism
- Colonialism
- Neo-liberal
There has to be some memo that gets passed around and every ml comment is contractually obbligated to include these phrases.
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It is a weird world where the Tankies align with Moscow Marjorie
It's not surprising at all, they're working for the same people.
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Someone says: USA Bad (with proof)
USApes: It must mean they think China and Russia are good.
¿Por Qué No Los Tres?
You’re being obtuse, they actively defend Russia/China.
It's usually * Russia/China does something horrific *
Normal People: Hey, this is pretty terrible.
Tankies: IT'S NOT TERRIBLE BECAUSE WHAT USA DID IS MUCH WORSE.
In 98% of my Encounter with Tankies, they are the one who try to steer the topic away from the horrible thing China/Russia has done and towards: LOOK USA BAD! Even if the USA has NOTHING to do with the topic at all. It's like that's their go-to argument. And of course: " Yeah, it's not bad because the puppet States of China and/or Russia said it's not bad. "
They usually skip the morality and jump straight to the whataboutism. They know that the thing is bad and won’t argue that, but they will try to sweep it under the rug and change the narrative to US doing something bad too.
At the end of the day they’re like kids in a playground justifying that they can do something bad because someone else did it too.
Oh and I can tell that someone will misinterpret my comment and think I’m downplaying the sh*t that the US did
Two wrongs always makes one right
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Oh good, this seems like a good place to ask something that's been bothering me for a while.
I see the posts from Hexbear and Lemmygrad. I can understand why they are in favour of theoretically communist regimes like China. What I can't for the life of me see is why they seem to unconditionally support modern Russia which is surely as far away from communism as you can get.
I must be missing something but not sure what?
"I hate the US"
"Oh Russia and Iran hate the US. I love Russia and Iran!"
Unfortunately sometimes people are actually as stupid as they make themselves out to be.
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They're not actually communists, it's just a facade for Kremlin and CCP propaganda.
Because they’re anti-west not pro-communist.
Anything critical of Russia is obvs western propaganda and as Russia is an enemy of the west, they will support them.
They see the enemy of their enemy as their friend, instead of realising it’s just another enemy.
But you see, Russia is just what is left of the glorious soviet union who got destroyed by the western evils. Whatever they do is totally justified in their bid to rebuild the union under a dictator, dont you know anything? And Ukraine is full with jewish nazis.
Noo you don't ._. Their train of thought is more often than not "USSR=Good. USSR hates USA. USA=Bad. Modern Russia hates USA. So Russia = Good."
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The better question is what are they missing.
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Extended Version:
Needs an "EU BAD" square
You forgot "great man theory" (i.e. any criticism of Putin or Xi) and "horseshoe theory" (i.e. any indication that left wing violence is bad).
Ahh yes, let me fix that
This is my experience as well. It's also laughable that they call themselves communists and love China and Russia. Those people aren't communists, they are authoritarians.
All communist regimes are authoritarian by nature
Is this a comment on the inevitably of human nature, or a misunderstanding of communism (which if done properly is stateless)?
Probably just that every rendition of communism so far has been authoritarian.
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That's why I too am not a believer in horseshoe theory and actually agree that communism hasn't been practiced properly before. A peaceful emancipation of the common person is still unpracticed. If this is all talkies said, I'd be fine with it. But they say communism has never been practiced before along side arguments that the Soviet Union and China are communist. They are parroting real modern communists without understanding them and mixing in their revisionist history to create a paradox they don't seem too concerned about.
I think it's more about rebelling against their Reagan loving, USSR hating dads than sound political theory.
Communism in practice is USSR and China type dictatorships. Fantasising about "real" "peaceful" communism ever existing is delusional.
If you want to abolish private property and there are people who disagree (and there will always be) the central power will need to "neutralize" them.
This is what Marx envisaged socialism as - the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.
Shame that every single time this has been attempted its been quashed externally or coopted internally by bad actors.
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