Kiev was founded countless generations before Moscow.
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Stupid mongrorians
Inb4 tankies explain why russian imperialism is a good thing while also calling for nuclear genocide.
Guess we humans don't own any land since the dinosaurs settled here looooong before us.
Reject monke, return to chikn?
The Kievan Rus was founded by Viking settlers, therefore by the Putin's own logic he should cede all of Russia east of the Urals to Denmark, Sweden and Norway while he's at it.
And yet Putin has expressed his desire to take some states of the United States, and claim them as property of Russia. How does he justify that?
I responded to that. How was I supposed to know that you randomly deciding to continue talking about California was the real point?
Guess it's time to yield dinosaurland to the chickens
I'm just waiting for some politician in Germany to justify a 3rd world war instigated by Germany. For a short period of time much of Europe was ours!
All hail the holy Roman emperor!
Aren't they line already doing that? I mean look how Russia's industries have changed
Return to enlightened 1444, embrace big Lithuania and Germany in a 100 pieces of border gore.
Gotta no-CB Byzantium and then go on to restore the Roman Empire
Fuck the Romans, Persia shall rise again
Might makes right.
Just ask Israel
And yet Putin has expressed his desire to take some states of the United States, and claim them as property of Russia. How does he justify that? Oh, he wants California? Well, it belongs to America. Before that, the Spanish built their missions upon the Southern parts of it, while Sutter had the North, and before that the native Americans had PARTS of it. Does he want Death Valley in the middle of summer. He’ll have to fight rattlesnakes for it.
Alaska was first settled by Russians so that's the only part he could have a claim, if you forget the fact that the Russian empire sold Alaska to America.
Irredentism isn't a claim. Pretending it is is giving in to murderers.
I wasn’t discussing Alaska. I was discussing California.
Did he really say that?
Didn't Russia literally sign an agreement to PROTECT Ukraine when we took the nukes away?
Yeah, in the Tucker Carlson interview. He spent the first 30 minutes going over his version of history and justifying his invasion. Basically, Ukraine made him invade them.
He was establishing an irredentist land claim, like fascists do. "We used to own this so we can invade, but no one else is allowed to use that logic against us >:("
He also said this back when Russia started the Ukrainian invasion.
Yeah, just like how a women is dressed makes men want to rape them /s
Not sure about protect, but definitely non-aggression.
Vladivostok oblast was named either Northern Manchuria, or Upper Manchuria, less than ~~120~~ 165 years ago.....
I think China may want their warm water port back
Edit: apparently there were Chinese and Russian skirmishes during the Russia-Japanese War of 1910, but China actually ceded control of the area in 1860, so more like less than 165 years ago.
China? I think you mean the Mongolian Empire.
Afghanistan? Believe it or not, Mongolian Empire.
That territory was taken from China by Russia in 1860. The Mongolian Empire had collapsed far before that happened. The Chinese in the region got forcibly relocated in the 1930s, but as of last year they still make up a significant ethnic minority of the region. The Mongols also make up a smaller ethnic minority in the region.
If you're going to go back to The Mongol Empire, then they controlled the vast majority of Asia and the Middle East, not to mention the sizeable chunk of Europe they controlled. I maintain that if The Mongols and The Vikings had ever united that combined empire would still be global. I'm unsure of that would have been better or worse for us in the current era
I think you read too much into this…
I was simply joking that the Mongolian Empire had controlled those regions at some point, and if we go by Russian and Chinese claims that historical ownership means modern ownership, Mongolia would have claim.
Next they'll say the price they got for Alaska was unfair.
One could say it was, but just like with French Louisiana, it was more of a way of unloading claimed territory to a friendly emerging country which would make some use of it. It wasn't that developed and didn't have many perspectives.
Eh, guess French Louisiana is more massive. But the point stands.
They already did. Months ago, like November
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4434869-russia-casts-its-eye-on-alaska/
Ok, so it was January
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