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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Anything I should be aware of if I decide I'd like to give it a watch?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

It sometimes runs on video game logic (for example, some pretty bad injuries can be healed instantly with the right equipment while others can't) and is bloodier than I would have expected. I'd say you don't need to be too familiar with the games as the show tells its own story. It has quite a few references to tropes from the games but even if you don't get the reference, it should still be enjoyable.

In general don't trust sensationalist reviews that call it the best or worst show of the year.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I've played all the Fallout games, my wife has played none of them. We are both enjoying it quite a bit so far, at least two episodes in.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Yeah my wife and I have played both and were part way through the third episode and are really enjoying it.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Gamers are so fucking weird. Really enjoyed the show. Hope they make 2nd season.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think it is extremely likely to get a second season one reason is because it has received tax credit to be filmed. source

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Yeah this is the first I've heard of it being bad. Everywhere else, I've read it's pretty good.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@0xtero @delitomatoes same here but I guess it rakes the clicks in.

Old fart FO player since the very first btw.

This is a great TV adaptation of a game (that isn't exactly known for it's "great" story writing as well)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I stopped watching in the first episode when the tiny girl beat up a muscular huge man.

Felt like avengers but she is supposed to be a normal girl right? I felt it was so dumb.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Beat up? Are you kidding me? She's described as a combat trained woman in peak physical performance and she's still being overcomed by the man aggressor. She succeeded in winning buy using a blender as a weapon, and that sounds pretty realistic to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I mean, as the previous posters have said, if this is supposed to be like a game, then sure. Anything is possible. But if it was reality, she would have no chance against that guy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah it's fine. Let's move on to other topics. :)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

spoiler...you mean the girl (at the beginning of the episode, shown to be an A+ in all "stats") that took on a man post coitus and still was thrown around the room and only survived thanks to the blender?

Seemed pretty realistic, and Fallout to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah I don't know the fallout backstory at all, but A+ doesn't change things like physics.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The only backstory you need is right after the prelude, it showed that she was really good at judo.

A woman beating the shit out of a man does not defy physics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I removed the smiley since I didn't intend it to be condescending. But I'm 100% certain that guy would knock that girl out in a second. It wasn't just "a man", it was a fit fighter man with tons of muscles.

But like I said, if it's a game, there is no real physics so anything is possible.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's an RPG, of course it does! Particularly if you decide to give your character the 'Bloody Mess' perk, which causes every enemy to violently and horrifically explode in a shower of miscellaneous chunks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well I guess, if the TV show is supposed to be like a game, then at least I understand why she is overpowered.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

What a journey that was for you to discover the obvious

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@1984 in Bethesda games it does 😜 No seriously, their engine is known for most hilarious ragdoll moments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah I've heard about that actually :) Funny...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Her introduction montage at the beginning, where she was doing all the exercises and training, didn’t do it for ya? Between the two, I thought the guy was less believable given his circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Really? So interesting to me that someone would think she could even hurt the guy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The way he was built in the show, sure, but he’s supposedly very irradiated, malnourished and poorly disciplined. I think the scenario of her winning that fight on makes more sense than him looking so buff in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I enjoyed the show. Even my wife who doesn't like these types of shows enjoyed it mostly besides the gore. She liked the different perspectives from the main characters

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The title/headline is purely for engagement, right? It has to be.

I haven't seen it yet but I haven't heard a single negative thing about the show yet. Only praise and lots of "it's way better than I expected"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Tbh the way some people dote on this show makes it a little intimidating to throw out a criticism.

It’s not bad, and I’ll certainly watch the whole thing, but as of the first two episodes I’m hovering around a 5-6/10.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I finished watching it yesterday. Personally, I loved it and this is the first negative thing I've heard about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

According to my Steam stats I played the 3rd one for about twenty minutes. The game engine seriously hurt it. The show was worth watching because it had nowhere to go but up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

It's amazing how much potential the world of Fallout has when not shackled to a terrible engine, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I agree, it's not very good.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, bullshit. 94%/88% on RT.

The show is awesome, and has already been greenlit for S02. It would have been so easy to fuck this show up, but they knocked it out of the park. As an avid player of the games, I loved it! This reviewer doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I think the show is solid, but I did notice at one point that it's basically a reskin of Westworld and now I can't unsee it.

I mean, naive girl gets the nature of her world redefined for her and is poised to become a revolutionary fighter? That happens.

A ruthless, cruel cowboy who isn't a cowboy but plays one for a long time, has god mode on and looks like an actor you know was left in the sun for too long? Surprisingly specific, but yep.

Is actually based on a videogame full of NPCs? In different ways but yeah.

Beloved older actor plays a figure of corporate authority with a secret plan? Getting into stretch territory but I see it.

I still enjoyed it, though. Looks so much better than the trailers, too, and it took me a while to realize it's because the trailers really had to hide the gore so they looked really cosplay-y. Hard to look cosplay-y with so many chunks flying around.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They should have made one more episode to where after she gets out, they explain some of the factions, the monetary system, and where in the Wasteland they are. All in all, I liked it and can't wait until season 2.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

On the Prime Fallout site, they have a bunch of extras and bonus content that explains a lot of the background stuff like that. It’s kind of neat. You should check it out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Its a great show and Im enjoying it despite the massive, glaring world consistency issues.
Like what the hell happened to the NCR?

Or, you know, the lore of all of the games outside of Fallout 3 and 4.

Its painfully clear that Todd is salty that the worst two games in the fallout series are 3 and 4. So he's erasing the pre bethesda games and the best game(that respects the original lore), New Vegas.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Have you finished the series? Because I don’t think I agree with this at all.

Not one bit.

Edit: to explain further would contain massive spoilers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I know what they are.

Trick is it directly counteracts the games. In the year the show happens is the same year new vegas happens. This is after the brotherhood was reduced to cowering in a hidden bunker with zero force projection capability.

The show is great, but its Bethesda fallout, not Fallout.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

No it isn’t. The show is happening in 2296, 11 years after FO4 (2285). FNV takes place in 2281.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So... I keep seeing people say this online.

I assume they're saying it before they finished watching the whole season. Because they do explain what happened to the NCR and explicitly acknowledge New Vegas in at least two very significant ways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Getting rid of the NCR is ludicrous and is blatantly just Bethesda diminishing the creations of everyone who isn't Bethesda.

3 and 4 are the worst stories in the series. Yet Bethesda seems intent on making them the main stories.

I am dreading seeing how they incorporate New Vegas given what they did to the NCR. I would rather that they not even touch it at this point

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, so... no, that's fanboy stuff. That's not how massive corporations make their decisions, not how artists make their decisions and, very specifically, not what is actually in the show.

Plus of course what you're saying is different to the online panic about NV "not being canon", which Bethesda has now explicitly denied. The NCR very much exists in the show, it's just been significantly downsized to early Fallout levels. Not because Bethesda is "diminishing the creations of everyone who isn't Bethesda", though. If I had to make an educated guess based on how reality actually operates, I'd assume it's because Lisa Joy and Jonathan Nolan wanted to make a show about a postapocalyptic wasteland and having a democratic government that has been running mostly fine for the past 100 years kinda gets in the way of that.

So yeah, welcome to franchising, where war never changes and neither does the status quo. It's mostly absurd that people in Fallout are still roaming around in reclaimed pre-war gear and doing the Mad Max schtick five generations into the postapocalypse, but Fallout gotta look like Fallout, so Fallout will look like Fallout until Fallout stops making money, at which point it will not look like anything anymore. Yay capitalism.

Hey, wanna know what they'll do to New Vegas? They'll probably do some variation on the plot of New Vegas. Mr. House and the Legion will probably still be around in some form despite it not making a ton of sense in continuity. Just like this season was all about leaving a vault to look for your missing dad, just like Filly just happens to have the same layout and landmarks as Megaton, just like there's a Dogmeat and just like Vault 33 now needs a water chip and will probably have to send someone outside to look for it. Because it's recognizable IP and recognizable IP has to be in the show so it can be fueled by recognizable IP.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Psh everyone I’ve talked to that’s seen it loved it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Retconning the only modern Fallout game with a decent story and good writing as opposed to all the garbage they put out.

Never change, Bethesda.

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