as someone that grew up in the South and was surrounded by evangelicals, Catholics were seen as weird/possibly satanic, depending on the person, and not really Christians because of the saints and Mary worship. They're polytheistic since they don't just focus on Jesus Christ.
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Catholics do a bunch of stuff other Christians think makes them not Christina.
The biggest one is the pope, catholic lore says the pope is the literal spokesperson for God on earth all other religions he doesn't have authority.
Idolatry: other Christian religions don't have a lot of images of saints or anybody other than christ and basically think catholics are wrong for worshipping Mary and saints on the same level as Jesus. Similarly it's the difference between catholic crucifixes (has the dead guy on them) vs regular crosses
Transubstantiation: according to catholic lore when the alter boy rings the bell that is LITERALLY the body and blood of christ you're eating. Pretty sure other religions think this is a step too far.
Christina be cray
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As an American who was raised Lutheran, who was taught a bunch of Romance-Euro-centric world history in school, I always considered Roman Catholic to be the "default" flavor of Christianity. Protestantism in all of its forms are hard forks. It's in the name, even--the Roman Catholic church is what Protestants are "protesting".
To unironically "-and Zoidberg" Catholicism out of Christianity while leaving Protestant flavors included feels completely backwards. I've never heard anyone do it.
But if I did, I could only assume it was due to some No True Scotsman bullshit. "Only we practice the correct way. Everyone else isn't just interpreting it differently, but interpreting it wrong." Sounds like an Evangelical line of thought to me.
I've heard "Protestants and Christians" too. It hasn't been that long really since some of them openly hated the other.
As a Protestant Christian, it doesn't make any sense. I think it is just idiotic evangelical puritans being idiotic evangelical puritans.
However it is worth mentioning Catholics and Orthodox people don't allow each other or Protestants to take communion. (Catholics might allow Orthodox but maybe orthodoxy forbids their own members, I don't know that one)
We're talking about "orthodoxy" here. Wikipedia
In Christianity, one of the first creeds established was the Trinity; God is the one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. How that works is a mystery unlike anything existing, although we try to illustrate and make parallels.
This is a sharp dividing line for calling anything "Christianity."
Muslims honor Jesus as a prophet, but that does not make them christian, because they deny his deity. Mormons do not believe in only one god (ultimately), or in the Trinity as one, but instead separate see this link.
Both Catholics and Protestants believe in a true Trinity.
Mormons think we are all going to be gods, and that God was once a man on some planet like we were, and therefore there are literally billions of gods out there. Our God just happens to be the one relevant to us.
Source - Grew up Mormon, am not anymore
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As a former Mormon, the Trinity issue always seemed like a bogus distinction. I'm sure you can find plenty of sects you would label "Christian" that also believe God the Father and Jesus are separate, distinct entities
Same with Jehovah's Witnesses not agreeing with or affirming the Nicene creed. Generally any sect that denies the Nicene creed is seen as non Christian
The Christians are just whiny Catholics. Protesting all day.
Catholics and Christians
The Orthodox: 
I've heard of them as just lumped in with Christian crowd so what gives?
I have to say, the conversations in this thread are both fascinating and informative, while being emblematic of the confusion division the question posed.
I find religion very interesting because it's intertwined with history, but in terms of living, atheism is so much easier.
Because some sects of Christianity (mostly Southern Baptist) are fucking insane and spiteful.
I can maybe understand it if they're talking about UUs. Speaking as one, we're not entirely sure what the hell we are either. We're in committee trying to figure that out. </self_deprecating_joke>
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That type of specification would probably never happen.
As an ex catholic who grew up near Protestant land, itβs because they donβt think of Catholics as Christians. Some think of them as more like Mormons, others more like Satanists. The plus side is that it was a great card to pull to these people when they proselytized. Theyβll tell Protestants they need a better version of jesus, but Catholics scare them.
Growing up in west Texas, I talked to one uber-Baptist who for some unfathomable reason believed that the Catholics "worship Mary", therefore they don't follow the "there is only one God" rule and therefore aren't Christian.
Yeah. The Southern Baptist sect was literally founded on the belief that chattel slavery was a good and "godly" thing, it doesn't get better from there. A woman having any deference is pretty offensive to them (the woman's "place" being purely in service of the patriarch of the family, whether husband or father). Mary being venerated as a saint is pure anathema.
I grew up protestant, this is 100% correct haha
LDS people will also consider themselves christians but protestants dont like that lol
Protestants don't like anything. Especially sex.
If you believe your religion is the only correct one, you'll make sure to distance yourself from other variants even of the same faith.
America is far from Europe and if there are people believing the US is the pinnacle of creation and Trump reincarnated Jesus himself, that phrase will eventually come up and stick