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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter. California is over here proving that you can just ignore anything the supreme court says that you don't like. You'll get sued over it, but there's all sorts of shenanigans you can pull to draw the process out for years to avoid coming to the conclusion the supremes say is correct.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you referring to?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ammunition background checks, magazine capacity limitations, banning of NFA items, 1 in 30 limit, restrictive concealed carry policies, requiring non-existent technology for handguns, permit to possess, annual registration fees, etc

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why is a background check for ammunition illegal?

lol, all you care about is your unlimited freedom to boomboom, if you block every attempt at sensible gun control of course they're going to go for your ammo.

Why is it ok for gun nuts to clog the court system with frivolous and specious bullshit, fighting for the right to own machine guns (they have the right just don't want to pay the --NOW MINISCULE-- tax stamp fee) and other such nonsense, but when gun control activists want to do the same it's ignoring the law?

Sucks when other people abuse the system instead of you I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why is a background check for ammunition illegal?

I can't explain it as well as a district court judge, so here you go: https://casetext.com/case/rhode-v-bonta

Why don't you check your outrage a bit and try to address the actual point I was trying to make?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sick of literalist 2a interpretations that ignore half the words in the amendment. Check your own bullshit, k thx.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Stop acting like it's only the last few words of the sentence. Stop acting like it matters what the musket toting founding fathers knew about bump stocks and armor piercing rounds. It's absurd and stupid.

If you won't concede to common sense regulation of firearms then the regulators are going to keep coming. I'm a firearm owner and prior service army officer, you fucking casuals, you mealteam six types who think you're entitled to 20th century weapons of war and then keep murdering civilians again and again are the real problem. Be realistic, how many mass shootings should we tolerate before trying SOMETHING?

How many more dead children will it take chickpea?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks for proving my point. You don't give a shit what the supreme court has to say about it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't give a shit about uvalde, the las vegas massacre, or any other innocents blasted, why should I give two flying fucks about the supreme court's bullshit?

Come on chickpea make it make sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that our society is going to drive certain people to do horrific things regardless of any regulations we could ever come up with, so imposing limitations on people's ability to defend themselves and their communities will only ever increase the body count. We need to fix the way we treat each other. We don't need to be worrying about what kind of handle is on a weapon.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so you think people are inherently untrustworthy yet you want more armed people.

Look bright lights, the fucking country already has more guns than people. YOUR AMAZING PLAN IS NOT WORKING.

I know what it is - you don't give a fuck because it hasn't impacted your life.

YET.

It will, eventually, then you'll grow a soul.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just wanted to point out that the supreme court can effectively be ignored and provided an example. You're jumping to insane conclusions and getting really worked up about it. Chill the fuck out and go get yourself some counseling.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It upsets you that you can't come up with a sensible argument, I get it. Being on the wrong side of history is a shit place. You can project your frustrations on me, call me angry, suggest I get counseling but none of it is gonna bring back the dead innocents from your stupid hobby.

Gonna block you now so I never have to read another stupid comment, enjoy the remainder of your apparently wretched existence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Keep fighting those strawmen, moron

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Irrelevant. Someone apparently forgot how to math.

If she retired, right fucking now, the GOP would block a new SCotUS pick until they were in power again & the democrats would allow that to happen.

Let's have this conversation again when it's a guarantee she can be replaced by a qualified jurist, and not Judge Beer 2.0

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Republicans already removed the filibuster for SCOTUS appointments during Trump's term. Ketanji Brown Jackson was confirmed with a vote of 53 to 47 and the Democratic majority in the Senate is bigger now than it was then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does removing the filibuster mean? I thought you could filibuster anything you want? Just get up there and make a speech for days and days.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

What you’re describing is a “talking filibuster” where members monopolize the floor so debate can’t continue until they stop. That’s part of it, but that doesn’t happen much anymore in reality. Removing the filibuster for judicial nominees basically just means the threshold for a vote is a simple majority, not a 60 member minimum.

It’s annoyingly complicated and the term “filibuster” has taken on a cultural meaning that is simpler than what it is in reality. These folks explain it pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh hell, I forgot about that, thank you.

She should fucking retire then. Let's put a brilliant, healthy 30something in there as her replacement.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For fuck’s sake, don’t risk it. Why risk it? Retire with dignity and humility, and allow someone who’s not batshit crazy to be your replacement. Anything less is selfish.

Lifetime appointments have got to go.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

She's only 69 though. Four justices are younger than her, three are older. She's closer in age to Kamala Harris than she is to Joe Biden.

I get the concern, but at some point it gets silly.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

................. Think about your first sentence for a second.

I understand the point of it is to demonstrate how likely it is for her to continue living another 5-10 years, but stop for a second and consider....

She's ONLY 69 years old.

Nearly 7 decades.

And the median American is currently just under 39 years old according to my 20 second googling.

Thats fucking insane to me.

And she's not even the oldest, nowhere near the oldest in government. The median age of senators is apparently around 65.

I already don't understand kids these days half the time, there's exactly 0 chance of these people understanding me...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I think this is a huge problem in American politics, and Americans really need to get around to elect younger officials asap. Obviously it's not that easy, and the problems run deep.

The supreme court, however, it's the one institution that's kind of intentionally old. They are supposed to be experienced ageing justices at the end of their career.

The problem is not that the supreme court is old as much as that politicians are even older.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Retirement age should be mandated. 65 spend time on whatever, not work.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She's also diabetic, a former chain-smoker, and has to travel with a medic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


But for the first time, they’re publicly expressing an unease that history could repeat itself after Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s refusal to step down in 2014 ended in the Supreme Court lurching sharply to the right.

Ginsburg, then 81 and a cancer survivor, could have retired and been replaced by a Democratic appointee when President Barack Obama was in office and his party controlled 55 Senate seats.

It was a history-making moment: Ginsburg’s successor, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, gave rise to a 6-3 conservative majority.

The calls involving Sotomayor come at a perilous moment for Democrats, as polls show Biden is far from certain to beat Trump in their rematch.

Even if she leaves this year and is replaced by a Democratic nominee, it would merely shore up a liberal minority that lacks the votes to move the court to the left without the buy-in of at least two conservative colleagues.

On the other side of the aisle, 90-year-old Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, a former chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said he wouldn’t call on a justice to retire.


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