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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Tonight @ 9: Conservative blames anyone or anything except themselves for their problems.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Her medical documents did in fact say abortion, she had an abortion. Use whatever mental gymnastics she wants, but factually - She had an abortion, the very thing they have and are wanting to ban.

Any person with even the smallest spark in their brain going through this can figure this out.

There are thousand of abortions performed every day on people who want to be a parent more than anything in the world, people going through IVF and fertility treatments have a high chance of ectopic pregnancies. If you actually understand this, it's obvious how insane she is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

should have died.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I'm not really sure it's a "news flash" that these people aren't particularly "sharp".

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I read the WSJ article and she is absolutely infuriating. Her reasoning contains several fallacies:

False Cause:

"It was absolute fearmongering at its worst"

She blames political messaging instead of considering that vague legal language created legitimate professional uncertainty.

Straw Man:

"There will be some comments like, 'Well, thank God we have abortion services,' even though what I went through wasn't an abortion"

This is particularly frustrating. Advocates aren't celebrating her needing an "abortion", they're pointing out her experience is exactly what they predicted: doctors hesitating due to legal uncertainty. She had to argue with staff, pull up laws on her phone, and call the governor's office during a medical emergency. That's the system breakdown advocates warned about, not a misunderstanding of medical definitions.

False Dilemma:

"We have turned the conversation about women's healthcare into two camps: pink hats and pink ribbons. It's either breast cancer or abortion."

This drastically oversimplifies complex healthcare policy into just two opposing sides and the irony is staggering. It's like a company ignoring safety advocates' warnings about a confusing manual, then when accidents happen, blaming those advocates for 'scaring' workers instead of fixing the manual.

She lived the very scenario abortion rights advocates had been warning about all along, yet somehow, in her mind, the problem isn’t the law, it’s the people who tried to stop it from hurting her in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

It's a shame she didn't die. Or at the very least learn something from this experience.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She's not stupid. She's using the media to manipulate stupid people so that her party remains in power. She knows exactly what a hypocrite she is, and she doesn't care. These people don't actually stand for anything other than wealth and power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

THIS. She's dug herself into a hole and can't dig out. Only choice is to dig deeper and fuck everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

She should have stood by her religious and political principles, and just rode it out. It was God's, and MAGA's, will to put her through that ordeal, and he expected her to accept her fate.

Instead, she defied The MAGA Lord and fought to have a Democratic abortion. She's a Democrat now, destined for an eternity in a fiery torturous Hell. May God have mercy on her damned Democratic Soul.

/S, nobody really believes that nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

As someone raised by conservatives, they absolutely do believe such nonsense. Remove the sarcasm, and you sound exactly like my dad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I didn’t realize there were pro-lifers that accepted “it’s not an abortion if the fetus wasn’t going to be viable”. You could pretty easily extend that to full term. Hell with medical debt, I don’t see how there’s much chance in a lot of cases even post partum.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have to wonder if the Doctors weren't trolling her a bit. She had an ectopic pregnancy at 5 weeks. Not only is the abortion necessary, it was within the six-week limit, so it was perfectly legal on all counts. So why would they claim they were confused about the law?

I suspect they wanted to teach an arrogant Florida Republican a lesson about politics encroaching on the medical decisions between a doctor and their patient, and made her jump through a bunch of hoops first, just to make her feel the fear, anxiety, anger, and frustration of the average citizen whose medical care is being dictated by MAGA Nazis.

Remember, we are only hearing the side of a professional MAGA Nazi, so she's a proven liar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The 5 weeks pregnant vs 6 week ban is a bit more ambiguous than you might think.

The Florida 6 week ban calculates the 6 weeks from the first day of the last menstrual period, not from fetal size or date of conception. https://abortiondefensenetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Florida-April-2025-2-1.pdf

In general, ovulation occurs 12-17 days into the menstrual cycle. Florida's ban is more like a 3 to 4 week ban than a 6 week.

Edit: spelled ban as can once

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

"roughly five weeks"

Since weeks are counted from the beginning of her last period, not conception, this operation must have happened within one week of her missed period. Perhaps it wasn't so clearly within the law.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

That would have some significant medical ethics issues. She nearly died. Do no harm, and that's regardless of the patient's political ideology.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Cult members will never blame their beliefs, they'll just perform mental gymnastics to blame critics.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My cousin died of that. I still remember her face in the casket. So unrecognizable due to all the pregnancy bloating. She was such a beautiful woman. Her kids are doing good by her but ectopic pregnancies are nothing to laugh at. You as the pregnant person are given a choice, do you want to stay a live or have the baby. Then you go under. My cousin never woke up. I highly doubt that she would be smiling holding the baby clothes if the baby had died. And she knew of this too late to abort and too early in the pregnancy to not realize she was going to die. Imagine knowing the exact time, place and reason for your death and not actually be able to prevent it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m not following. Ectopic pregnancies are not viable. Ever.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Yup. Might as well be a pregnancy in the balls... Biology just doesn't care about fan fics

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Blame democrats, blame democrats, there not even a real party anyway.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

I take pleasure in her pain hurting her own cause

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This really is a great example of being a special kind of stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yyp it's called retardedness. Idk why mods keep censoring me

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is like someone dying from COVID denying it on their deathbed.

You can't fix stupid.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (3 children)

My friend is a doctor and said that the number of people denying COVID is real while they died in the hospital is... significantly higher than 0.

It blew my mind that they could literally be hours away from death and still submitted it was a "liberal hoax". I just...can't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

my colleague was one of these. We held a socially distanced ceremony at the office for him. Fucking bleak as hell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I remember seeing something about a person telling the doctor to go to hell as they were being intubated and just thinking, "No, that'd be you."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Evolution in action. Still sad.

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