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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/10937445

Putin orders development of homegrown Steam Deck-like gaming machines — 100% self-sufficiency goal apparently applies to gaming, too

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I had more faith in Kim Jong Un making his own theme parks.

There's a lot that can and should be done to break the x86-Windows-Steam monopoly, and I wouldn't mind a huge middle finger to Nvidia, but I do not anticipate Russia doing any of the right things, even for the wrong reasons. At least China's gonna push for weird MIPS and RISC chips.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Maybe they’re murderous zealots, but at least they use Leenox /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i've seen a few videos of ukranians using decks to control drones. maybe he thinks there will be military applications on the russian side too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The reason you can control drones is that it's basically a full-on OS that can send to arbitrary system commands. If Russia wants it 100% home grown they're going to have to develop their own architecture. What I suspect is it won't actually be that home grown and will mostly be Linux based, but Putin doesn't know the first thing about computer systems so it'll be fun to watch someone have to tell him that.

It's the same with North Korea, they claim to have their own PC OS but it's just Windows XP with a custom skin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

isn't the NK Red Star os a linux distro?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They have already announced that it will be Intel Atom X5 with 64Gb SSD for around $500

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"and you will all only be allowed to play Pathologic!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"This game makes me feel like the state is irreparably evil."

"You must be doing it wrong, give that to me."

"Blyat."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Tbf it has much the same to say of non state forces

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"home grown" aka mostly Chinese parts

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

What's the difference then?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Its still someone's 'home'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So is iOS by that definition

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That Russia has no capability to produce something like this and isn't China also behind chip wise?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Taiwan, not PRC. Mainland China isn't capable of making CPUs and GPUs whith the performance and low power draw needed for a portable console in the volumes necessary. They brute-forced their way into a 7nm process, but it's expensive and low yields, so they're using it only for crypto mining ASICs and Huawei phones.

To make a console like the Steam Deck, they would need an AMD64 chip on 5nm. Granted, Zhaoxin does have a licence for X86 architecture (inherited from Via, who got it when they bought Cirix), but they're still far from being able to make those in 7 or 5nm.

Meanwhile, TSMC in Taiwain is already shipping 3nm chips for Apple and soon for AMD too.

Unless China figures out Extreme UV, like in the ASML machines, or direct stamping, like in recently announced Canon machines, they won't be competitive with Intel, TSMC or Samsung anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I meant what's the difference with our game systems? They're mostly all Chinese parts too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

China doesn't have the capacity to make high performance computer chips.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Deck is like 6nm. China can make 7nm. It is not like Deck is a powerhouse anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I thought most of the major silcon like CPU and GPU chips were from Taiwan, with it being more simpler commodity and board manufacturing being done in the PRC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Built in malware that phones home to the Kremlin, most likely.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

We see that PM Mishustin needs only to consider and create outline plans for the gaming ecosystem before the period of execution, which is set for June 15, 2024. Of course, preparing meaningful plans is still a big task, but it should be achievable enough for Mishustin to feel relatively safe standing on balconies.

Lol

[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago (3 children)

There's a 99% chance it'll be one of those fake emulation consoles with 5000 pirated roms loaded into it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Those are fun, though. You get a single console that emulates a lot of systems for a good price. Some have cute retro styles!

I got the Miyoo Mini Plus that runs on Linux. It emulates many old consoles like GB and GBA, and can even run some DS, N64, and PS1 games, which are a great addition. Of course you need to tweak it a little with a good OS (not the Chinese one) and a good SD card with a library of games from the buccaneer communities. Edit: It's not hard at all.

The Steam Deck is amazing, so I don't think they can rival it, but if they make a better Odin 2 cheaper than the Steam Deck, I'd be tempted, lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Miyoo Mini Plus

Odin 2

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't be too out of pocket for Putin to advocate pirating all games not developed in Russia

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Good then maybe they'd stop with all the gray market shit that they're into. Stolen keys are worse for developers than piracy, and Russia is notorious for it (along with other countries).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I mean a broken clock is right twice a day right?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or just a Steam Deck with a Z painted on.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is going to be a huge success, like the last time when they developed a "homegrown" cellphone.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Well people with connections to the goverment need a way to launder money.

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