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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Her eyes look like her parents shared parents.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would say both-sides-ism is the problem. It allows MAGA people to have a voice in the name of "fairness" and it was a problem before MAGA happened. It's been a problem for a very long time and has only gotten worse.

It isn't unfair to allow one "side" to speak lies while someone else is speaking the truth. In fact, it's the opposite of fair.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

First of all, vox, a "radical conservative" is an oxymoron.

You are looking for "reactionary conservative".

Second, the assertion that

Clearly, you need to have conservative writers. But what kind?

Is just plain wrong. Factual, objective reporting is nonpartisan. If you asked me who a prime time news anchor in 1980 would vote for, I would have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

by virtue of the fact that they choose which stories to cover, they are slanting the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Definitely. But the effort toward appearing objective was made, which in my experience is superior to Fox News, who makes all the editorial filters THEN projects a narrative until the ones it covers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

the most charitable thing i can say is that it's possible that the anchors in the 80s didn't understand their own biases. but i think they knew. we've all seen Network.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you asked me who a prime time news anchor on 1980 would vote for, I would have no idea.

We are probably from different countries but I agree and interesting point.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

MAGA didn't break the media

Media allowed themselves to be broken by MAGA

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Media chased money and maga led them in the right direction. Nothing was broken, it’s going exactly how media wanted.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Absolutely! The media could have stopped the whole thing in its tracks by treating it with as much respect as it warrants, but instead they legitimatized a fascist movement by pretending that it had legitimate points argued in good faith.

The billionaire-owned media bears just as much of the responsibility as the GOP sycophants for enabling the madness of a malignant narcissist to become de facto mainstream even though their fascist ideology consists of nothing but ultra-authoritarian nationalism, scapegoating minorities and lies, lies lies! 🤬

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Article says

Clearly, you need to have conservative writers. But what kind?

Counterargument: No you don't. Conservative ideas are bankrupt, cruel, and/or foolish. We do not need to give them a platform.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Conservative eyes are too close together like MTG, too stupid like Comer or too far apart like Candace. Do they got somebody with normal eyes who isn't a sex trafficker like Matt Gaetz?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives used to be halfway reasonable, or at least their talking points were. Now too many have gone unapologetically extreme.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Counterargument: No they weren't. Many people were just more successful at ignoring it. Because it didn't really impact them personally.

It wasn't unapologetically extreme when they got caught planning a fascist coup to overthrow and kill FDR? It wasn't unapologetically extreme when they persecuted People for the last 70 years, ending careers and lives over people being socialist. (Insert black, non hero normative, or any other observed type of minority population)

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Journalism faces a right that has lost its bearings

A right that’s lost its bearings should have to face journalism.

But instead journalism turned around and called them daddy for the views.

Thank you for reading this concise history.