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Counterargument: No you don't. Conservative ideas are bankrupt, cruel, and/or foolish. We do not need to give them a platform.
Conservative eyes are too close together like MTG, too stupid like Comer or too far apart like Candace. Do they got somebody with normal eyes who isn't a sex trafficker like Matt Gaetz?
Conservatives used to be halfway reasonable, or at least their talking points were. Now too many have gone unapologetically extreme.
Counterargument: No they weren't. Many people were just more successful at ignoring it. Because it didn't really impact them personally.
It wasn't unapologetically extreme when they got caught planning a fascist coup to overthrow and kill FDR? It wasn't unapologetically extreme when they persecuted People for the last 70 years, ending careers and lives over people being socialist. (Insert black, non hero normative, or any other observed type of minority population)
Bill of Rights says otherwise. We could just do what PLENTY of other democratic societies do and ban hate speech but then you get those slippery slope arguments. Somehow we can make inciting a riot or inducing panic illegal but not the Great Replacement Theory.
Nope. The right to free speech doesn't include the right to a platform to spew disinformation on.
Which are invalid, hence the Slippery slope fallacy . Hate speech is easy to identify and legislate against without banning legitimate speech. The people claiming otherwise tend to be people who routinely engage in hate speech and overly cautious neoliberals afraid of ever doing anything that could possibly be argued against in bad faith.
The government can't remove you from a platform unless you've broken a law. That's what I meant. Private companies on the other hand, that's different.
As for everything else I completely agree
Exactly, so they aren’t entitled by the Bill of Rights to a platform at all.
True, but nobody was suggesting that.
Now that you mention it, though, repeatedly breaking laws against inciting violence DOES make that a legitimate course of action. As would banning hate speech and rigorously enforcing that ban.