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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Marketing is everyone's common enemy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

With a cheap crappy product and a high ratio spent on marketing you can successfully sell absolute garbage to a large number of people and still turn a calculated profit. That shouldn't be possible. Taxation on advertising should be high enough to crush businesses that are almost exclusively marketing machines (I'm looking at you sugar drink industry).

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Please delete this, this is not a meme, this is real life.

:,(

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

For real. I thought I was in NotTheOnion.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

I'm laughing because if I don't I'll cry

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

So fucked. I can't even make a sarcastic joke (I tried) about how fucked we are.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I don't think any data centers would be using ground water for cooling. They'd likely be on closed loop systems. And the power draw is only an issue if we decide to not fix where the grid gets its power from.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

And the power draw is only an issue if we decide to not fix where the grid gets its power from.

So it is and remains an unavoidable problem with frivolous AI use for the foreseeable future?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (8 children)

data center engineer here! incorrect

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Of course the power draw is an issue. There's no 100% clean energy and our grid is still not 100% renewable. If we continue expanding the energy use in frivolous projects, we're barely moving the needle. We want to do both, reduce energy use and clean up the grid.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Found the escaped AI entity guys! It’s right here!

[–] [email protected] 290 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

That's a standard problem with ecology. I can't use a plastic straw which has negligible impact but fishing industry can dump 640,000 tonnes of plastic every year and that's fine. Let's just ignore that.

You go on holiday once a year with the efficient normal flight - bad guy. Ritch person uses private jet for no good reason - that's normal. Let's ignore those emissions and create special rules for the airlines so they don't have to worry about it too much.

Private jets pollution doubled during one year and it's probably the worst way to travel for the environment but I hope you have spent your life savings for a slightly better car to compensate that. We can't inconvenience ritch people, right?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Yeah let's not do anything because something else is worse.

In just the U.S. alone, one estimate suggests 500 million straws are used every single day. One study published earlier this year estimated as many as 8.3 billion plastic straws pollute the world's beaches. In the U.K., at least 4.4 billion straws are estimated to be thrown away annually.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

But there are so many more poors. If we all do our very best we can come close to breaking even with the damage done by the rich and mega corporations and help alleviate them of any guilt they might otherwise experience.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Private jets is a very small part of airplane pollution and four people travelling in a Chevy Suburban with a big V8 actually use less fuel per km per passenger than the big passenger airplanes use per km per passenger. That's not even taking non CO2 pollution into consideration.

People in general rely on airplanes way too much, may it be for personal travel or to get shit shipped to them ASAP, it's not just a rich people issue.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That's part of why we need viable rail travel in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 146 points 7 months ago (23 children)

It is this way because the rich people control everything. They won't lift a finger to change if they think they can scam 10,000,000 people into lives of utter inconvencience and guilt to "offset" their own pollution. Hint; every one of us could live in caves and recycle our everything with stillsuits and the rich's portion would just expand to fill the voids we left. This isn't a game with a high score. The hands of the many must join as one to cross the river of life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The hands of the many must join as one to cross the river

Nature, nurture, heaven and home

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