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Originally it was going to be "over the last twenty years" but I decided to be more flexible.

A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, "no one talks to each other in person, they're on their phones always" and the like.

Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

When I was a kid, it was common for members of parliament to vote freely per their riding with whipped votes being limited to confidence votes.

Now, thanks to Stephen Harper going hard on the precedent set by Jean Chretien, free votes basically don't exist in parliament.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Is sex different? It seems like sex has changed in society. Like, more openness, less taboo. But also conservative sexual beliefs seem to be pulling harder in the opposite direction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

The common man walks a path toward physical slavery, his pace ever increasing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

“no one talks to each other in person, they’re on their phones always”

No one talks to each other on their phones either. They send texts.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

In the states anyway, our sense of community has almost vanished. Rather than concerning ourselves with improving society, we have become a nation of de facto sovereign citizens, all of us competing with everyone else.

Even common courtesy has gone down the shitter. On the roads, at retail establishments, everything is a fight. Shove your way past everyone or you're weak.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No smoking indoors anymore. I remember when you could still smoke in a hospital. Then they limited it to just a "smoking lounge" on each floor. Followed eventually by a ban inside...to finally no smoking anywhere on hospital property.

Not to mention airplanes, restaurants and movie theaters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I'd go further than that. I remember smoking being pretty common everywhere in the 1980s, and cigarette butts being common anywhere outdoors in a public setting.

I rarely see anyone smoking anymore, and rarely see a single cigarette butt.

That being said, where you are in the US is gonna be a factor, and there are some countries that do still see a fair bit of smoking.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 days ago (4 children)

When I was in high school, gay was the generic negative word. If Wendys gave you a medium fry when you ordered a large - gay. If your homie cancelled plans last minute - gay. If you slipped on the stairs and busted your ass - gay. It's bizarre in hindsight.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Same. "Gay Humor" was a thing when I was in middle-school/highschool, probably still a thing. If you act feminine as a guy, its "gay". If you act too emotional over a girl, it's "gay". If you answer a question wrong, your a [R-Slur]. Everyone who you had a slight beef with is being a "bitch", even the guys. Sometime the occational gay word equivalent that starts with "f".

Oh this is a blue city (in the US) btw. Circa 2015-2020

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Kids are still mean, they just use different words now

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Smoking cigarettes isn’t just not cool anymore, You’re actually likely to be socially ostracized in a lot of countries where it used to be popular. My perspective is the US, which is a very clear example of this.

Weed, however, is way more accepted. To the point where if I’m using a vape I almost feel a social pressure to clarify to people I’m getting high and not smoking nicotine.

It’s rather funny when you think about it

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I've been arrested, held up at gun point, and spent a few weeks in a Texas jail in the 90s because I like smoking weed. Now I have 3 weed stores within 2 miles of me, and it's as mundane as buying a loaf of bread. So that's a positive in my book.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

haha yeah I've been a pothead for 40-several years and I got my Florida MMU card last year. It took me a while to get past my "kid in a candy store" phase. Geez I wasn't used to having ANY choice, let alone that many choices 😆

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)
  • People are way more free to talk about their mental health problems.
  • Climate change is part of mainstream awareness, most people want to see action on it.
  • Gays and lesbians are very broadly accepted in many parts of the world. Trans people are too (and they are more visible), even if there is also a culture war backlash.
  • Nearly everyone hates capitalism. Not everyone has figured out what needs to be done about it, but it's a good start.
  • Conspiracy thinking is more rampant, presumably because of internet (mis/dis)information bubbles

(I was born in the early 80s, so this is over the last 30ish years, since the mid 90s)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

No more milk delivered each morning to my door.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I grew up in the farm-y outskirts of a big-ish city. I got to catch lizards and tadpoles and toads in the creek nearby, and we'd collect reeds from cattails and weave them into little mats for fun. we'd walk/bike to our friends house without parents, just yell that your going to so and so's and off you trot. We knew the farmer who grew the sweet corn we ate all summer, and the farmers who had the peach orchard and tomato fields we'd harvest from at the end of summer to can cheap produce for the winter.
The foothills behind our neighborhood were covered with grass and shrub, spattered with bike trails and caves right up to the tree line. There were foxes and racoons that you'd need to protect your chickens from. Deer would chill in our yard in fall eating the fallen Apples from around our trees. Flocks of starlings covered our huge cottonwood trees making a huge racket and pooping everywhere. I'd take a metal baseball bat to our big metal clothesline post to make a big gong noise to scare them off cuz they were so loud.

Then a fence went up, blocking us from using the hills, and they started construction on a bunch of high end mc mansions. They filled in the caves, killed the foxes and racoons, and paved over the creek to make a walking trail. More and more deer ended up as roadkill till they stopped coming to eat the apples altogether. Developers bought out the farmers to build more houses, first the tomato fields, then the corn, and finally the peaches were ripped out and paved over. The dairy became a giant strip mall for a Staples, and a Kohl's, a donut shop and a sandwich shop. The road I walked alongside, barefoot, to play in the creek became too busy to be safe for kids to walk next to.

In summer we'd play outside and drink from the hose till we were too hot, then we'd run inside and stand under the swamp cooler to cool down. Year after year it got hotter and hotter till the heat was too much and we couldn't play outside for too long because the swamp cooler wasn't enough to cool us down anymore. In winter we used to make snow men and build igloos with buckets full of snow as bricks, and we'd trample paths into the snow drifts that came up to our hips. But year after year the snow banks got shorter and shorter and the snow came later and later until... I remember the first year we had no snow till after Christmas. The decorations looked so sad and stupid sitting on brown grass instead of coated with bright snow. That's the last year I bothered to put them up. The more people moved to the area, the thicker the smog got in the winter. All the stagnant stinky car exhaust and fumes from the refinery got caught in the bowl of the valley all winter, till the hazy air was so dense you couldn't see the mountains that surrounded us.

The world got hotter and more full of cars and houses all while the people got more stranded inside. Yes by the lure of Internet, but also to try to escape the heat and dust and smog. New neighbors in the big houses would snap at us to get off their lawn then smile like they gave a fuck the next Sunday at church.

Neighborhoods full of community became individuals in houses.

I'm only 34.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was trying to think of specifics, but they're already getting mentioned. I'd just say a lot of these things stem from there being literally double the amount of humans alive right now than when my dad was born. An individual is devalued immensely and cultural cohesion is completely shot.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When I was still a kid, we went from bring a plate of cookies to your neighbor and introduce yourself to DON'T TALK TO STRANGERS!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I grew up with the "Dont talk to strangers" mindset.

Doesn't help that my birth country have an epidemic of kidnappings.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The mall was full of stores with good quality products that you would value for a non insignificant amount of time if purchased.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Negative: Worse driving interactions (as a pedestrian/cyclist), especially post-covid.

Positive: People are generally more accepting of things, and people seem to be more comfortable sharing parts of them that make themselves different from the "norm".

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The circa 1990 nature of American society has been erased so completely that it is hard to believe how drastically it has changed.

Movies used to depict child molestation (Indiana Jones) or outright rape (Revenge of the Nerds) as normal and to be celebrated when it was done by the heroes. A lot of crimes got viewed through the lens of whether it was “our people” doing them. The thinking features in a lot of old movies.

The cops who beat Rodney King were found not guilty by a jury, in the first trial. After all, they’re the cops, they’re allowed. Drunk driving was fine, as long as you were one of the right kind of people. The cops would beat the fuck out of people and it was fine. The factory in town could be polluting the river and it was fine as long as dad had a job. And so on.

The uniformity of thought that TV enforced, before the internet, is really not well understood. If you thought Israel was bad, then you and Noam Chomsky were literally the only ones. Even as late in the arc as the Iraq War, I would say about 95% of the people who didn’t get their news from the internet supported the war. Watch one of the debates where Ron Paul was speaking against the war with everyone else (except the audience) just weirded out and confused by it, or the “Media-Opoly” short that aired on SNL once and then never again, to get some idea by contrast of how airtight the lock on narrative used to be. TV and newspapers are still kind of that way, but they don’t have the media monopoly they used to. It used to be that someone probably would live their entire adult life without ever hearing the kind of political viewpoints you see every day on Lemmy as normal things.

On the other hand, along with the expectation that everyone was kind of a piece of shit and that’s how life is, came a kind of backbone for resistance that I feel like is missing today. Woodstock ‘99 would be a pretty normal “yeah they robbed us” badly organized festival today. It was way better than the Fyre Festival, and people at Fyre just took it, or called their lawyers. At Woodstock ‘99, the kids threw bottles and batteries at Kurt Loder, broke in the ATMs and stole their money back, and then ripped the venue apart with their bare hands and burned it all to the ground.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The cops who beat Rodney King were found not guilty by a jury, in the first trial. After all, they’re the cops, they’re allowed. [snip] The cops would beat the fuck out of people and it was fine.

This hasn't really changed though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

but back then it was "fine" because it never made the news...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It absolutely has. Before Rodney King it was always fine. From 1992 to about 2014 it was mostly fine. From 2014-2020, it was a debate, and after 2020, they're pretty much always guilty. There's a whole interesting conversation to be had about why it was that all kinds of riot and peaceful protest had basically 0 result until 2014-2020, and then in 2020 it all of a sudden starting working significantly.

Anyway, now under Trump, some of the reform is going backwards. There were some outlier departments that were still in the 1992 mode, and the feds were doing some things to try to come down on them, whereas now it's the opposite, Trump is actively pardoning dirty cops. Great stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Better but much more expensive insulin, although price has gone down significantly since Affordable Care act.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Cable TV use to be something that teathered us all together in a way. We were all stuck on the same schedule for premiers of new episodes of different shows so we all had a common thing to talk about come the next day. Now I have no idea what’s playing on what service and have just given up on staying up to date on the new shows. I could have access to $TVShow but probably won’t watch it because I don’t like to binge watch so it takes me longer to catch up and by the time I do it has already left the minds of my peers so why bother.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I could have access to $TVShow but probably won’t watch it because I don’t like to binge watch so it takes me longer to catch up and by the time I do it has already left the minds of my peers so why bother.

I enjoy not having my entertainment options constrained by whether other people are watching them at the same time, so I'm loving the change. Especially since I didn't like over half of the shows that 'everybody' watched.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Game of Thrones was the last time I had this experience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

The country I live in turned from a poor shithole, into a developed state

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