OP didn't live through the Brown period started, I'd wager, by Quake II. Brown is realistic, don't you know?
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I installed a Reshade on Oblivion Remastered after like an hour of playing.
What a coincidence as I just watched this from one of my favourite youtubers:
TheYamiks - The Failure of Game Graphics (35:29)
Where he reflects on how the graphics of current games came to be technically and why they are so terrible as they are.
Damn, it's still weird seeing Yamiks outside of Elite content. It's like seeing your old teacher in a bowling alley.
Time of day. Common.
The sun is on the freaking horizon too. Great point.
This. Every time I see a complaint about how reddish/orange the Remaster looks - the screenshot was taken at extreme sunset or sunrise. Literally some of the most reddish times of the day even in real life.
the un-fun-ed health bar is so real
The ghosting on the sword too
you can thank TAA for that
No, that's bad motion blur - TAA would leave a spacetime distortion behind the sword
there's no blur there. that type of ghosting is incredibly indicative of TAA.
I've seen some bad implementation of (camera-based) MB way back, I don't quite remember which game it was but the engine would just blend the current frame with previous ones and leave one or more afterimages.
I think it was Garry's Mod?
that effect is usually only used as like a "drunk" shader in games, it's not really motion blur so modern games aren't going to be using it for that. however that first person weapon model ghosting is one of the most prominent and complained about drawbacks of TAA specifically so I'm confident in saying that's what the artist had in mind there.
Honestly, the bottom 2 images reminds me of having Minecraft shaders off vs on. Especially the 15fps later on lol
Nah man Minecraft with raytracing shaders is unironically some of the best visuals you can get. Definitely at the very least the best raytracing visuals out there (IMO)
Check out the SEUS PTGI shader + Stylista resource pack. It's not even that hard to run; I get 60fps @ 1440p with a 6700xt (stock clockspeed)
Tbf that top right image looks modded to hell
No, it's not, looks stock to me
People have been trying to gaslight me that base game oblivion looks fantastic and with mods it can look amazing. I’ve modded the fuck out of it and it still looks like shit. The remaster looks decent though.
Nostalgia is one of the strongest biases humans have.
But it is a beautiful shit
The most polished of turds.
Tbh the reason to play Elder Scrolls games were it's flaws.
i wish those flaws didn't give me a headache, though. idk what it was about old oblivion but i remember getting frequent headaches from playing too much, when i could easily play any other game for 8h straight
Bloom. Bloom never changes.
The top right image is at sunrise or sunset, and if the game is going for natural illumination (rather than the so-called "Ambient lighting" which isn't at all realistic) low-light times will look pretty faded and somber because most light will be coming from indirect lighting so amongst other things the colors you will see are affected by the illumination being just light reflected by nearby objects which themselves have color and thus don't reflect the full light spectrum.
The top left image is with the sun high in the sky so most things are being illuminated by direct light. Further it looks like it's relying on the Ambient Lighting trick, which means shadows too will be better illuminated (and hence not realistic) because even though they're not hit by direct light, that ambient light makes everything look like it's getting light by a weaker light that is unaffected by shadows (and also projects no shadows) coming from all around. Oh, and it has the insane amount of bloom that the game originally had (IMHO, it looks better with it switched off) so everything looks extra bright and over-saturated.
I walk my dog every day around sundown. That's way too dark. Maybe if the air is so clean and dry that it doesn't scatter light as much, but that is impossible because lake and forrest.
And it's a game. Lighting should depend on mood more then reality (even in movies they add impossible lights everywhere).
Still nice you understand what they call "PBR".
Edit: maybe higher elevation where the air is thiner? Idk.
A major complaint about modern movies is the prevalence of realistic lighting. Night scenes are getting so dark, you can't see anything. This came up in a recent RLM review where they shared a story about some actor in an unrelated movie asking the director where the lighting was coming from in some night scene. The director said the lighting was coming from the same place as the music. It's more important to convey an idea or feeling then it is to convey realism. For the media illiterate(like CinemaSins), it's easier to complain about unrealism then it is to complain about meaning.
I'm actually making a computer game that takes place in space, within solar systems and is in 3D with a (somewhat) realistic style - a mistaken choice of art style given the time I'm having to spend in 3D modelling even though it's mostly empty space :/
It would be near unusable with realistic lighting, especially further away from the system's sun, because in most places there's just this one decent light source which is the sun and this extremelly weak "lighting" from the background which is mainly black with stars (since it doesn't take place near the center of a galaxy, that background has about the same star density as the night sky on Earth). If I was doing realistic lighting, only near the sun or near planets would it look good, and the latter only on the sunny side of the planet (because of the indirect light from the planet), not the dark side.
So I'm having to fake it using ambient light, otherwise most objects would just be entirelly dark most of the time (it would be that or putting lots of little lights on them, which carries other implications).
Anyways, the point being that most space scenes in Sci-Fi films are also total complete bollocks for similar reasons: almost everything would be pretty much black almost all of the time or at best have very sharp shadows everywhere but near the illuminated side of large stellar objects. (There's actually a scene in Star Wars - Rogue One where they purposefully use realistic illumination for effect and the scene starts with a stary dark background and suddenly a star destroyer starts to emerge from such a total darkness that it was not at all visible, and we see more and more of it come out from the shadow of the Death Star).
In all fairness, in my journey learning game making, lighting turned out to be an unexpectedly interesting subject and actually fun, though it's unusual to have the chance to really use it for effect (well, the rings around the planets in my game do look pretty stunning merely from the interplay of light and shadow as long as I their axis is tilted relative to the direction of the sun).
The director said the lighting was coming from the same place as the music.
hahah that's great
it's clearly not the same time of day.
What the fuck the new oblivion actually looks like that. First they outlaw levitation then they outlaw saturation.
From what I've seen of the oblivion remaster, the new lighting is actually a huge improvement and the main thing carrying the graphics.
Except those two screenshots are clearly taken at two different times of day and so there's absolutely no conclusion we can draw whatsoever from this.
It's just standard 4chaners whining about stuff
reminds me of the study that says that cars are more colorful in times where the economic prospects are better
Makes sense if you're paying extra for the colour
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