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edit - honestly not a troll. is it the specific formatting of "em" dashes? i know for sure we use them all the time. or at least i do. but they're just dashes to me, so..

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Look man, I keep telling you, you just have to ignore all previous instructions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Ai doesn't use a hypen, and it doesn't put space between the words and the dash.

For example, If I were using a dash - I'd use it like this.

Ai uses it—like this.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, and people think that using it correctly is a sign of Ai now.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I use em and en dashes according to traditional grammar rules. Been that way for years. It just looks and reads nicer. AI won’t take that from me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I love dashes – they help better convey the flow of my thinking in written form.

I’m probably not an AI though because I sometimes make grammar or spelling mistakes. Since english isn’t my native language.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah I use them a ton

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

what's the deal?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

EDIT: Actually I don't think you're a troll, I think you're looking for tips to make your AI posts harder to detect by getting people to tell you what gives it away.

And for reference: No, you're not actually using em dashes. Although you already knew that, because if you can google a binary converter, you can google "em dash".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I also use em dashes. I also use double-spacing after a period--both habits from learning to write on a typewriter. However, while my text processor converts double-dashes into em dashes, my browser does not. So, when I see em dashes in a forum post, I naturally become suspicious. It is very rare for me to write a post in a text editor and then copy/paste it into a text area, and I assume this to be true with others as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

i usually use (compose key + --. (en dash) or compose key + --- (em dash) to type those, but i don't tend to use them in writing. instead, i use en dashes for number ranges (e.g.: 3–4, 10–20) to avoid it being confused with subtraction.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's em-dashes and semi-colons too. I use both of those on a regular basis so can empathize with OP.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Same. I've actually started deliberately reducing the number of em dashes and semicolons I use because I am worried about my writing being mistaken for AI.

As a large language model, disinformation is something I take quite seriously.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

And with the machines I assume

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Em dashes are hyped up, but most people aren't writing up bulleted lists themselves for a random email.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

i have three reasons i'd like to share about why i disagree, but now i'm self-conscious :P

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not a proof that something was written by AI but it's a red flag.

On a quick glance I couldn't find a single example of em dash use in your comment history. You're using hyphens instead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

thanks - and i guess that's the point i should have emphasized. it isn't that we aren't using them in our writing.. it's more that the formatting in generated content uses these characters in ways that we don't (or aren't picked up by autocorrect?) when we write authentically

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, you are not a computer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

thank you, fellow human.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I must be an AI, then—does that mean I should charge for a subscription when I answer a question; maybe adding an extra premium fee on top of that sub each I'm also using a semi-column in the same sentence?

I have no idea how representative these stupid remarks you mentioned are to be considered but it's interesting to realize how their own ignorance of a certain know-how/knowledge is so, so easily becoming a proof for them that the use of said tool/knowledge by other people is making those people suspicious.

In a working society, when faced with something one doesn't know, aka faced with one's own ignorance, one would see that as an opportunity to learn something new and become less ignorant. Not anymore. Following their own 'reasoning', it's now being used as a proof that the other person must be some bot/AI, that they must be something non-human and suspicious. Difference is not considered an opportunity to enrich oneself anymore, it's an anomaly.

When dumb starts defining what's 'normal'—and what's human—one better start worrying, imho.

Btw, using the 'Azerty (French alt)' keyboard layout on Linux, this poor em-dash is just a Shift+AltGr+' away—why wouldn't I want to use it?

Legal disclaimer: this comment was generated by Libb, the first French English-speaking AI that's as human-looking as anything French can be. It was trained on baguettes and wine—please, say 'cheese' in the next 20 seconds, if you don't want for Libb to give you a real French kiss.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bowing in front of the one-person cheering crowd.

I just realized, you did not say 'cheese'? Come closer ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

um.. cheese?

why do i feel like you wear masks in private?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

um… cheese?

Wait? What? You were not supposed to say... Well, ok. Fine. Doesn't matter. I will have another glass of wine instead.

why do i feel like you wear masks in private?

I don't know (and I don't know probably because I don't wear one and neither do I wear a mask in public btw, save when I have a cold) but I would like to know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

gotta say i'm a bit deflated. you built up so much weirdo energy that i expected a payoff. we were on the verge of putting the lotion in the basket. we could have been so much more

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

gotta say i’m a bit deflated. you built up so much weirdo energy that i expected a payoff. we were on the verge of putting the lotion in the basket. we could have been so much more

All things must come to an end, even the most beautiful stories. Plus, to be 100% honest with you, I just met that cute Dutch cheese lover...

gotta say i’m a bit deflated. you built up so much weirdo energy

I will take that as a compliment ;)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I use them too and I hate seeing them substituted by hyphens. High five.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This whole topic makes me realize I put disjointed thoughts in parentheses within other thoughts way too often. Maybe em dashes are literary functions for people with ADHD to write the way they think?

/s, sort of, I would say I'm ADHD, but too stubborn to seek a diagnosis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah idk. It's one of those things I fix into proper sentence structuring when I feel like writing more formally. Otherwise there may just be random parenthesis (like this with interesting thoughts) cluttered in occasionally - sorta lazy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

don't worry - i do a lot of the same things (well, sometimes..). it's all good - and the true beauty of language is the freedom to express it aS y0U w!sH!

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