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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

Every single Republican, from voter to Congressman is responsible for this.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My presumption is he’s throwing a fit because Greenland signed a mineral rights deal with the EU.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

Also the eu is sanctioning his bff, so he is retaliating on Putins behalf

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Of course he doesn't want a deal, he wants bribes. It's literally a racket.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Fam, anybody got an old airplane in storage that we can gift him?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Ok EU, time to bring out the big guns. Someone call Airbus for an obsolete A380 and tell him we will send it to him as a "gift". Big hands need the biggest possible aircraft.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 hours ago

That's not big guns this is the big gun. Cutting the US off from our goods, capital and service markets, banning them from state contracts, suspending their intellectual property rights, such stuff. Annex 1 has the juicy bits.

Application would of course be targeted, e.g. hitting all of Peter Thiel's businesses at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Does this apply to cheese prices??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Believe it or not, he’s lying.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He’s looking for a bribe

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

And yet, EU might appease him at the end

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The EU needs to give him the China treatment. Calm, sovereign, and let him rage in hus bubble. The EU is way too emotional and decomposed. Then again, the EU is fully dependent on US technology. Should be fun.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

I agree, but I think they are? I think every (traditional) western ally of the US are working back channels to no success. They're moving on and finding more reliable trading partners.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Some people will have to start manufacturing stuff day in and day out like they used to do in the 50's.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Every headline like this should make clear that him imposing tariffs by fiat is illegal and unconstitutional.

I hate the fact that the media just reports that he's doing it without ever citing Article 1, Section 8:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Every one of these tariff manipulations has been 100% illegal, because the supposed emergencies he's using to excuse them are nonexistent.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Congress has surrendered its powers to Trump. Democrats in congress are sleeping on the job.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

Democrats really can't do much and you might not realise how close US is to the situation where Trump starts calling people foreign agents or criminals and locking them up. You ever wonder why he's defying courts and clinging on to the ability to send people outside US judicial system.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

8 Ds in the house has died this year alone. and no R has died as of yet. Ds dont have contigency replacements like the Rs do, they often do get rid of thier own most of the time before it gets worst.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

it didn’t surrender anything, americans elected turnip in a majority of all houses

the Republican Party now has a majority in both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

that’s damn near as much as saying go ahead do whatever you want as possible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

it didn’t surrender anything

It absolutely has. The he executive has literally no authority to impose tariffs - that's Congress' job. The executive has no authority to not spend money that Congress has appropriated - yet he is

These are easily blockable by Congress and should be in articles of impeachment.

Additionally Congress gave the president the ability to gain "temporary powers" during an "emergency" - and guess who gets to declare what constitutes an emergency? The president. And SCOTUS has blocked Congress from even being able to take it away without the president having a veto.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

you elected turnip

Canadians don't even vote for the Prime Minister of Canada. How would they have voted for the president of the US?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Not a lawyer. Not an American.

But there must be more context, because by my read of this specific text it doesn't appear to be defined as a power EXCLUSIVE to Congress?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

Generally speaking if the Constitution doesn't say you have a power and explicitly does say somebody else does it means that you don't.

Though there are centuries of interpretations, laws, and norms that fill in the gaps that can make it more nuanced. It's difficult to take a straight reading of the text and apply it to an event.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

Not really. The US Constitution is a rather short document. This was by design, to only provide a bare framework for a government, to be amended over time. But that didn't really happen, and most work has been done in Congress and by SCOTUS after Marbury v. Madison.

You can read a whole bunch of info in articles like https://constitution.findlaw.com/article1/annotation03.html, but the tl;dr is that the Constitution says only Congress can make laws, but it can delegate some other authority. The section we're talking about here doesn't say it's a power exclusive to congress, no, but it says Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes, and Congress acts through law (literally, "acts of Congress"), so logically, taxes can only be set through Congressional law. And usually they are. But all the rules have gone out the window.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

He made this announcement to give media something other than the "Big Beautiful Bill" to worry about this weekend.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago

I don't give him that much credit. The idiot runs around shitting his pants and making a mess 24 hours a day.

This isn't planned. Swimming in a diarrhea filled ocean is his natural environment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Never said he was as stupid as many others have said, especially when he was younger. (Yeah, average at best, and that's a left-handed insult.) But damn! Even in his dementia, the man got a talent for leading the narrative.

I started out saying, "Nah. He's not that smart to be distracting like that, just spewing his usual narcissistic shit in reaction to events." But after he's pulled this move 100 times, I'm a believer. Gotta admit, he's damned good at working the headlines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Marketing. Trump is good at marketing. That's all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

You really think this is all him? Guy's got a full team running the media. The Heritage Foundation's got its grimy hands all over the country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 40 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Next week he will brag about how he made a tremendous deal, and lower the tariffs as a result. What tremendous deal he made will be left unspecified, but Fox News will use this opportunity to report how great of a deal maker he is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

There will be no deal, he will just lower the tariff. However, he will claim a deal was made

Like he did with China.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 14 hours ago

Whenever he makes this announcement, expect there to be a flurry of buying activity in the US stock markets in the day (or even hours) immediately preceding

[–] [email protected] 16 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Bullshit. He is looking for a deal, just not one that is favourable to both parties.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure that's called extortion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

He wants another hotel deal. For the clever American people of course

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

And that is exactly why he got impeached the first time during his first term.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

He's looking for a deal that is favorable to him. He will give the EU anything that the US can offer in exchange for personal profit and power.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not a deal. That's capitulation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

No no no, what he wants is appeasement like his idol got

[–] [email protected] 70 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I'm so good at deals, I've made probably 200 deals, everyone wants to make a deal with me.

A few weeks later

I'm not trying to make a deal with anyone! 😭

[–] [email protected] 74 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Translation: I made outrageous demands they didn't accept.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

He did just host his crypto dinner so who had his ear who was going to make boatloads of money on the EU tariffs?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 14 hours ago

Why EU no buy $TRUMP?!?!

[–] [email protected] 146 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Good news. Whoever still thought it was still possible to get some slack by kissing Trump's ass are now fully caught up with the reality that he is an unreasonable prick.

Now the real decoupling of economies from the US can begin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

i defy anyone to say it better than you just did.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

He's not unreasonable he's just a dickhead.

Give him money and he will do what you want, fuck anyone else or his country.

He is being completely reasonable if all he cares about is himself. He's just a dickhead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

That would work only for a short timespan, then somebody else will give him something or he'll have a shortcircuit in his two brain cells and we're back to square one.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago

He’s not unreasonable he’s just a dickhead

He is definitely both of those things.

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