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I feel like every story has a plot hole.

Especially time travel stories, none of them ever has a consistant rule of time travel.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago

I can't think of any plot holes in Grandma's Boy.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

For my money I'd say "Hot Fuzz". The script is so tightly written that it's AMAZING on rewatches. Almost every single line of dialogue is either a joke, set-up for a joke, a payoff, advances the plot, foreshadowing, establishes characters, or some combination of all of these.

The only things I could maybe see people thinking of as plot holes would be how absurd some character motivations are, but to me that just falls into suspension of disbelief.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Is it cops can be likeable? That's a pretty big plot hole for me.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 19 hours ago

He's not Judge Judy and executioner!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

Quantum Break pulled off an extremely well made time travel story. I don't recall any plot holes, especially not major ones.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I just finished the Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells. It’s a series of books (that was recently turned into a tv series) which was pretty great.

No time travel, but plenty of robots!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't think the TV series had started shooting yet, they just signed a deal. (If I'm wrong I'm gonna have to suck it up and get Apple TV because the entire series is phenomenal and I'm looking forward to it)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

First two episodes are available on Apple TV!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Baby Driver came across as an especially tight script. I personally don’t have much of a radar for plot holes, so I might be way off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 20 hours ago (10 children)

the first film and show that come to mind are Primer and DARK, respectively.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Primer is very smart about explanations in that it never fully explains anything. You’re only seeing their understanding of what they’ve stumbled across, which we can reasonably assume they barely understand themselves. After all, they accidentally invented time travel trying to create a device that reduces the mass of objects lmao they have no fucking clue what’s happening. The scene where they are debating what happens since he accidentally brought his cell phone back highlights how out of their depth they are. I don’t remember the exact lines, but Aaron says how cell phones work by pinging different towers until they find your phone. Then when Abe asks him “are you sure?” He says “no.”

They always kind of understand what’s happening but are ultimately making educated guesses.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf the characters don't have to understand or explain anything. If there is a way for the internal logic of the movie to work without contradicting itself, that should be good enough for no plot holes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

The point though is they partially avoid contradictions by baking into the story that we and they don’t know anything.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Honestly, if Primer had any, I'm to dumb to spot them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago

On the director's commentary, he states that the ultimate cause of Granger's illness is deliberately left vague and unexplained. That's kind of like a plot hole, sort of. Or maybe it's mystery box, and not a plot hole.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Primer is one of those movies that needs like 3 rewatches to spot a plot hole and no one's got time for that. Another good show of this type is Steins;Gate (totally watch it if you like time travel stuff)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

lol 100% same with DARK, tbf

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I don't want to say "none", but I think of the film "Captain America: Winter Soldier" as having some of the tightest writing in superhero comic book movies. It's something of an outlier a case study imo of strong storytelling that the whole thing is so competently put together. There are far fewer suspensions of disbelief than most superhero movies, imo.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

12 monkeys, the TV show, not the movie, is perfect.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

12 Monkeys All Spoilers (Plot Hole Rant)

So they wanna erase the Kalavirus.

But not if Titan already activated their "Red Forest" World-Destroying algorithm because they'd be "outside of time" and therefore "rob them of the only weapon they have, time travel", so they released the virus themselves.

Like?!? "When" did the "Red Forest" sequence start? It should've always started when Season 1 Epispde 1 happened. And like, how does the Primaries getting paradoxed even make sense? If the paradox happened before Cole was born, the story can't even possibly happen because the Red Forest should've erased them all.

Still don't understand that. Makes my head spin.

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